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Not hard to do when you don't respect the intellectual property of anyone and close off your market

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Exactly what the US did at the early stage of its development.

https://www.charlesdickensinfo.com/life/copyright-laws/

At some point I would think companies need to do their own R&D if they want to compete globally.

For example, if China wants to lead the world in AI by 2025, they need the best people doing research.

Well, that's the one area where they do have top talent in.

Too conferences like CVPR are overwhelmingly Chinese and a Tshingua and Peking are world leaders in AI.

China is still lagging far behind in other areas, but they certainly haven't dropped the ball when it comes to AI.

As concerns about US competitiveness in the global economy are ramping up, they are placing import tariffs promoting an "America First” strategy with the express goal of protecting domestic production from cheap imports! Sounds an awful lot like "closing off your market". Maybe both US & China just like the idea of free trade when it benefits them, not so much when it doesn't. Like every other country.

Yes, USA has been a paragon of virtue in intellectual property matters.

While true that the US is no saint in this regard, the scale of IP theft by China is industrial, and well known.

If history is any indication, once countries start becoming net exporters of IP, and net importers of low-skilled labour, they very quickly adopt the same neo-liberal trade and IP policies that are currently championed by the developed world.

Yes imagine if Thomas Edison had had his inventions stolen! American ingenuity stands on our patent system.

Imagine if Thomas Edison built his inventions off the ideas, and prototypes of others... Without crediting, or compensating them.

Which he did. [1]

[1] He even engaged in outright theft - copying, and selling bootleg movies, for Pete's sake's! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Trip_to_the_Moon

Edison himself was stealing ideas from others. Not to mention the slave labour and free natural resources of a new continent that americans used while enforcing chinese exclusion act. Ip theft from china is western imagination.

Bad example buddy.

Edison was the biggest thief of IP during his time. Of course when western societies steal it is not theft but "manifest destinty" "braveness" and a lot of other BS. But Chinese company's rise is purely because of theft. Is it ?

Is it that surprising that a nominally communist government wouldn't put much stock in the concept of "intellectual property," which is even more vague and questionable than the concept of private property?

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