Ask HN: Web-startup=Cinderella, Systems startup=Ugly Duckling?

I know that a vast majority of HN'ers work on web startup/ do backend/front-end/ web dev as a full time job. There are big things happening on the Systems-side, with many companies in Cloud storage, Security-as-a-Service (Zscaler). Why does this not make it to the top page of HN? As far as I know, HN is probably the only proper channel connecting a wide range of tech-savy audience across the world. Sites like Network World dont exactly encourage users sharing interests/projects etc. And the majority of blogs - which track specific trends in Virtualization/Cloud Computing/Storage are written by narcissistic non-coding full-time bloggers who somehow become experts in"Cloud Computing" by writing one post daily. So, is there a proper forum for Systems-inclined guys? If so, do post a link. On HN,generally: a) Web-startups=Cinderallas=cool b) Anything else=Ugly duckling=uncool :-(