Huawei isn't trustworthy 5G partner, German spy agency says
bloomberg.com
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All governments spy on each other, and they do whatever is necessary for their spying needs, the US, European nations as well as the Chinese. And I bet this includes exploiting Huawei/Cisco/Nokia/Motorolla hardware. Only difference is in this case for Germany: The US is more trusted than the Chinese. Thus the US/Europe get more leeway in these hardware purchases.
There is a general alignment of Western intelligence agencies as a cooperative group against the antagonism of China (and Russia, NK, etc)
It isn't just "everybody spies" - it's "we are actively engaged in an adversarial relationship together against this other group"
The article is about Germany.
Indeed - and many German citizens who are interested in such topics find this concerning exactly because of Five Eyes.
My comment that Germany is not part of Five Eyes
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19399560
refers to its grandparent
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19398858
which I requote here:
"Western governments have historically been allied with and have had intelligence sharing and cooperation arrangements with the U.S.
There is a general alignment of Western intelligence agencies as a cooperative group against the antagonism of China (and Russia, NK, etc)
It isn't just "everybody spies" - it's "we are actively engaged in an adversarial relationship together against this other group"".
For understanding Germany, you always have to keep in mind that there is a deep ditch between the "political interests" of the government and the "political interests" of many citizens (that is also the reason why you will harly hear any German citizens speaking of "unsere Regierung" (our government), but of "die Regierung" (the government)).
The government is rather attached to the USA (that is why of course nothing happened after the NSA tapped Merkel's phone), while many citizens are deeply sceptical of it, be it for
- industrial espionage that was done on Enercon by the USA (see https://www.windpowermonthly.com/article/960011/trans-atlant...)
- very different beliefs on data privacy
- the Snowden leaks
- Donald Trump
- ...
it's really a shame that with both 4g and 5g standards bodies did not already work on this.
Only some, though. The metadata will still be there to be collected, which I understand is more valuable than you'd assume on first glance.
If it weren't for these political considerations, expanding 3G coverage instead would be cheaper and likely good enough for most applications. Especially the self driving car stuff where 5G is always touted as necessary: if it can't work without constant network connection, it's not safe enough to be deployed on the streets.
My last sentence was was /s, obviously.
> Especially the self driving car stuff where 5G is always touted as necessary:
Germany must the only country where the development of 5G is not motivated by providing better connectivity to the citizens, but by.... the interests of automotive industry. The oligopoly is strong.
Tools in this context sounds a lot like:
- I'll have my favored vendor draft the RFB
- Have my favored vendor write the only RFP that matches the RFB
- pretend there is competition.
This is probably the US telling Germany what to do. They're the junior partner anyway. Giving China access to large parts of their telco infrastructure isn't something either country wants to do. I can understand why, but just saying that probably won't fly with the WTO
https://www.lightreading.com/mobile/5g/huawei-muscle-puts-er...
I’m not sure if they’ve all changed their plans, but at least one or two of them have already made this choice and have used them in the past. Never heard of any problems in delivering.
Doesn't every telecom company cooperate with its home government? I see a lot of doubt cast towards Huawei's behavior, but how about some evidence?
How can 'tools' with the effect of a ban be legal, when a ban isn't?
But must guess is that Germany will be very careful and still let Huawei have a footprint in the country because Germany is a heavy investor in China for decades, and Huawei actually moved their EU HQ from the UK to Germany. They will want to stay on good enough terms with China.
This is more common the other way around, where a government wants a specific company to do a job, but is required to issue a public call for bids. In that case the requirements are just written exactly for that specific company.
This can easily backfire with tech companies being banned and excluded from markets on frivolous grounds without due process in the same way.
It cannot just be some can undermine competition and limit access to markets with scaremongering and wild allegations. If free markets and competition are mere political constructs to benefit a few then the whole system is effectively over.