VS Installer welcome image contains offensive element for Chinese
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"Very disappointing. The most stupid change ever made. I found the new color offensive to me and many i know so change it to another color".
If fixing it meant more work, like redesigning all of the artwork, then you can ask the other side to be tolerant and understanding. In this case, there was no need to.
Changing the hat's color is such a non-issue that it's really pathetic that there's actually a discussion about it.
- remove any imagery of LGBT people for Chinese market
- remove any imagery of black people for Eastern European market
- black out any imagery of women for Saudi market
And yes, this actually happens all the time. Maybe it's ok not to market to people who are offended by some things?
A green hat on a random unidentified figure in an illustration is funny at worst.
https://developercommunity.visualstudio.com/storage/temp/633...
contains a woman (or is it?) driving a male bicyle (with a horizontal bar)
But it's also your right to change anything you want for whatever reason you want. Microsoft decided that they don't care about the color and prefer to not have some of their users thinking about their cultural biases when seeing the image. They're free to do so.
"prefer to not have some of their users thinking about their cultural biases" -- extremely negative approach. I don't think you guessed it right. That's the same as saying "we are supporting you cultural biases, don't worry about improving. ever."
No, not inherently. Cultural “biases” about the meaning of symbols particularly, unless you think language itself is bad.
> Aren't we are supposed to stand united and be against dogmatic principles, prejudices and intolerance?
The meaning of symbols in a particular culture may be influenced by any of those things, but it is not intrinsically any one of them, so those are at best tangentially relevant, and more likely irrelevant, to the issue at hand.
Also, those are tenets of PC culture, not “PC culture aside”.
> As well as I should be able to incorporate that hat and a skirt in any of my designs or mockups if those please my senses and fit my vision, right?
You can, just as you can include a figure with and extended middle finger. OTOH, product designs are a form of communication, and communication done without awareness of what symbols mean to the audience tends to be less effective or even counterproductive.
What about me seeing a (what I perceive as) bag of oats on some drawn porch in one of the Huawei adds? Should I scream of indecency and insensitivity, suggesting that Huawei promotes something offensive, and start trolling their support channels?
If you'd like to post a longer, thoughtful comment about your experience, that would be fine. Such a comment should include information that people can learn from. If it contains inflammatory details, it should convey them neutrally, rather than in a way that is likely to provoke fiery reactions. That way your post will more likely lead to good conversation, which is what this site is for, rather than angry argument, which it is not.
These considerations grow in importance as a topic becomes more divisive, the way nationalistic topics and especially large ideological topics (e.g. Mao) inevitably are.
In addition to https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html, you might find these links helpful for getting the spirit of this site:
https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
https://news.ycombinator.com/hackernews.html
“Sorry, but it's a bit ridiculous that something as minor as the color of a tiny hat in an image that's only going to be seen once can be "fixed" so quickly, when other REAL issues that are actually related to Visual Studio itself get closed as "not a priority".”