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Ask HN: Where can I find a job that matters?

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I’ve had this nagging sense over the past couple of years that the things I’m building have the mission to change the world but not necessarily for the better. I make over 200k writing code (more money then I thought I would when I was in college) and my quality of life is great. But at what cost?

I feel like I should be contributing to society in a more meaningful way because there are real problems to solve in the world.

For example, since 1997 the costs for - Hospital services is up 200% - Child care up 125% - College & textbooks up 175% - Housing up 55%

Things that are cheaper: - TV’s (-90%) - Software (-75%) - Toys (-75%)

Meanwhile wages have only increased 80%.

I can’t shake the feeling that something is wrong here and if we continue this trajectory my kids will live in a dystopia at some point in their lives.

I’m not necessary looking for a non-profit job, or to go after the problems above, but there must surely be companies out there who’s mission isn’t to make the founding team and investors rich by solving hard problems that don’t really matter.

It would be interesting to be a part of a company like Tesla in the early years for example.

Anyone know where I can find jobs that are going after hard problems that are trying to make the world better?

(Posting from a new account because I don’t want the people I work with to know I’m looking.)

One place to start is by narrowing your search to companies that are:

1. Public Benefit Corporations ("A Delaware public benefit corporation (PBC) is a for-profit corporation intended to produce a public benefit and operate in a responsible and sustainable manner. Unlike traditional corporations, a PBC must consider its public benefit purpose and interests of those materially affected by the corporation’s conduct in addition to stockholder value.")

2. Certified B Corps ("Certified B Corporations are businesses that meet the highest standards of verified social and environmental performance, public transparency, and legal accountability to balance profit and purpose.")

To give a counterpoint, I am working for a medical device company.

Even if I enjoyed it much more than working in consumer electronics, where you have arbitrary deadlines to sell more distracting (and often junk) devices, fundamentally it does not change that much.

By that, I mean that the business, as any business, is focused on its bottom line, margin, cost, customer satisfaction and not on number of patient saved or patient comfort.

I don't think that outside of working for a non profit, you will not work for investors or shareholders.

I don’t have a problem with working for profit. I’m just more interested in positive change.

Don't write off non-profits and NGOs. Working at an NGO is probably the most content I've been career wise, even if the technical problems being solved are not the most challenging.

The people there are amazing, and being in an environment where people are not just trying to help the company earn more dollars is like a weight off my soul.

Well... As unpopular as it is to some, many government or government contracting jobs are definitely jobs that matter.

It is interesting that you place a high value on Tesla when they are not even the affordable EV option. Is it the self driving aspect? Honestly curious what Tesla may be doing that other EV manufacturers really are not (other than being used as a status symbol).

Maybe I misinterpreted what "matters" means to you. I guess you mean a high valued position to a company? I originally interpreted it as a role with positive impact to society.

I’m talking about working with impact companies.

Tesla is a high priced EV but it drives innovation for the market.

I don't have a direct answer for this, but I do have a suggestion - while you are looking for for a better job for yourself, maybe you can use the extra cash that you have to support those that are already doing life changing work (doctors without borders comes to mind, for example)?

80,000 Hours is a good website to check out. Benjamin Todd's post on hard world problems is helpful: https://80000hours.org/career-guide/world-problems/

Based on what you've said, I think you'd find this recent book useful:

https://www.amazon.com/Prosperity-Paradox-Innovation-Nations...

It describes:

- why the way to help 'poor' countries improve economically is through innovation, not through aid

- examples of businesses that started offering things like health insurance and heart surgery at extremely low price (so low that, when you read about it, you will be surprised and doubt it's possible, even though I've primed you by telling you ahead of time).

You might find entrepreneurial ideas in there you want to pursue, or companies you want to join.

This book looks great. Thanks.

Seems pretty obvious ... look for work with companies in those sectors you would rather be working in? Although, you might find it frustrating, they're not easy problems to fix, and sometimes they're broken by design.

The numbers you're using don't make any sense.

-100% for TVs? Are they free now?

And housing is up 55% but wages have increased 75%? So housing costs have decreased?

What you are suffering from is Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. You are making a lot of money too early in your life, and haven't gone through any struggle, so you think that' life is too easy. Go through some unemployment or a very tough period in your life (you will eventually, everyone does) and then you will learn to cherish and be grateful for your well-paying programming job.

Stats are from the AEI http://www.aei.org/publication/chart-of-the-day-or-century/

Feeling good that you have a job doesn’t mean that other problems in the world don’t exist.

Sometimes interesting projects come up on the United Nations Volunteer site

https://www.unv.org/

Become a firefighter or a paramedic, or...I'm not kidding here...a plumber. Our entire civilization depends on sanitation. Change my mind.

Toss your email into your profile, I'll drop you a line.

Might be a good idea for yourself too :)

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