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> "I like having a bit of daylight in the mornings in the winter"

I am the opposite. For me, the early morning winter sunrise is an annoyance, and just feels a waste of daylight if it's bright outside when I'm asleep. Sometimes in mid-winter it seems like its already starting to get dark when I'm just getting started with my day. Awful!

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I agree - leaving the clocks unchanged means more light in the evenings (or, where I am, more like the late afternoons).

I am with you. I enjoy long summer evenings when it is till some light at 11pm and you can be swimming, camping, whatever. Winter time would mean sun rising ~3:30 in the morning. I have no desire do get up that early.

Unless you desire to get up at 4:30 in the morning, you're going to have to invest in some curtains either way. At that point, the exact time of sunrise doesn't really matter.

Alas, early sunshine wakes up some noisy birds, so curtains may not be the entire solution :(

Clearly, shifting the time by an hour keeps the birds asleep longer.

Your comment was probably meant to be silly, but in case not:

Using wall clock time as the measure, this would mean the birds sleep later. The hour we used to call 4am would be called 5am. Birds will wake up at the same physical time, but what matters is what our clocks say.

That's OK, bird numbers have gone down significantly over the decades [0], they'll soon not be a problem.

[0] https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/advice/how-you-ca...

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