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Exactly. We talked about this in the Netherlands and permanent +2 for us is too far off. That's St Petersburg natural time, it would mean sunrise at 10am in wintertime.

If the Germans will really push for permanent +2 time, then there will be a time zone border between us.

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Opinion here in the Netherlands is divided between a preference for permanent winter time, permanent summer time, or keep changing the clocks twice a year¹.

Sunrise at 10:00 in the winter? Fine! That at least gives us some light in the afternoon.

1: https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2018/12/19/meeste-nederlanders-wil...

Could be! Permanent summer time has my preference but I honestly don't mind at all if I have light when I get up, but a lot of people seem to want that.

Also: permanent darkness rush hours. Nice.

So now you're ok with UTC+2? That's permanent summertime.

You are neglecting public health concerns. People’s sleep tends to be disrupted when they have to wake up long before sunrise. Sleep is important for the population, more important then afternoon sunshine, I would say.

> it would mean sunrise at 10am in wintertime.

Not sure why this is a problem

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