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Strongly Agree with Andy in that interview.

In U.S , one way or another everything is running in the cloud.

For Europe ? It’s more complicated , most large businesses still have their own datacenters or run using dedicated machine with European hosting (OVH).

I’ve worked for many differents banks and they barely use the cloud compared to startups like N26 or Revolut.

Same thing for Industries or Health Services they largely run « On Premise » compared to U.S equivalent.

There is still room for growth from Europe if they manage to convince leaders of large corporations that the cloud will not take the their sovereignty away from them .

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I've worked as a consultant in Germany and I was shocked by how far behind your average company is regarding cloud adoption. Modern tools and processes are also usually a pipe dream. So I agree, the industry as a whole has way more room to grow than you would suspect.

Europe is the next big cloud customer since they're always behind US for tech adoption.

Always is a strong word.

France had usable networked computers everywhere long before the us did (it was called minitel)

Over on the UK my local Telco (not BT) was doing video on demand over copper ~2000, they where also one of the first to switch a fully packet switched internal backbone (so successfully other telcos came to look at how they did it).

We had chip and pin a decade before the US.

Our median internet connection is better.

Is the US the world leader sure, always ahead..not so much.

Internet in US is just terrible for 90% of the population. Even if you are in the Bay Area or Manhattan you are still getting bad speed and you are stuck with a provider like Spectrum or Comcast and you pay 70$ for 150-200Mbps. I just don’t see this changing anytime soon :(

I pay $70 a month for gigabit AT&T fiber in a southern city, 10 miles from the city center.

in nyc, i pay $100 for gigabit

Belgium, 39€ for internet + digital TV + phone line 50 Mbps, but it is enough)

We are more on the expensive of Europe. My subscription is pretty cheap though.

200Mbps in the entire country would be around 55€ ( internet only)

Europe has 4 of top 5 of the fastest broadband countries in the works.

Romania (#5 in speed), goes as low as 7€/month.

So in Romania it's basically the same percentage of income as in the US.

Where does that reference "stop". Every utility still has a base cost.

Also, I'm pretty sure that the richest in Romania has a much higher income than the poorest in America. But they still pay the same price.

Ps. What if you reference it with social health care in Romania vs US. Not everybody works, you know.

Sweden.10Gbps for 30$ / month. It's kind of a long-running launch campaign, but still. https://www.bahnhof.se/villafiber/

Whats the typical bandwidth quota? Surely they wont let u saturate a 10gig pipe ..

I've got 400Mbs/35Mbps with no cap (literally unlimited) which would cap out at a round 4TB a day if I ever had a reason and could saturate it.

10Gbps domestically is insane though, that's pushing 100TB a day!.

Most of EU plans I have experience with are not capped; but 10gbps seems insanely high.

But it does and it will take away an amount of sovereignty. "Excuse me AWS, Can you send me every hard drive used in the storage of Dataset X? Not copies, the original drives. I need to destroy all the drives per regulations." GDPR muddies the waters too. If AWS is the cause of a fuck up and a bucket is accessible on the internet, good luck proving your company shouldn't be saddled with the GDPR fine. AWS will have the technical means, monetary incentive and reputational impunity to claim it was your own fault.

Then there is the fact that a decade on the numbers are in; Cloud isn't any cheaper at the scale of most established businesses AWS wants to court. Often it's more expensive.

None of this will actually slow adoption. It probably should, but it won't.

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