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Comment by ajaygoel | Hacker News Reader

Are you saying you've never received any benefit from an email you received that was part of a campaign? Like a discount to your favorite store? Not all uses are commercial, either. We have teachers who use it to communicate with all the parents of their students. A tennis club that emails out the week's upcoming schedule to all players. An HOA communicating with its residents.

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It's a spam tool, plain and simple. The relevancy of that spam is entirely besides the point.

Once this app becomes large enough to get on Google's radar it'll likely be shut down.

The makers of spam tools often make lots of money in the beginning (e.g., XRumer blog spam), but once they get big, adjustments are made (e.g., CAPTCHA for blog spam) and the tools become ineffective/useless.

And some people really do buy health insurance from spam phone calls.

That doesn't make it not spam. Spam provides an overall negative value to my life, even if an individual message could conceivably be useful.

Your use cases sound very much like opt-in (and low volume) mailing lists, not cold list of contacts without opt in.

Please post your personnal email address in the next comment, so I submit it to a few campaigns. I'm sure you'll find benefit in some of them, and some might be even legit like your home town council shedule.

ajay AT wordzen DOT com

I like how you obscured your email address from scrapers in replying to someone so that they could explicitly submit it to spam lists...

I can’t see wait for someone to put his email everywhere. “Did you mean ajay@...”

Looks like someone has a lot of free time on his hands. I've received 4 emails I didn't sign up for in the last couple minutes. https://www.dropbox.com/s/j8e0qpvnzn23opg/Screenshot%202019-...

Case in point.

Not from me. My comment was tongue in chick, I'm not going to practice what I just criticized.

Which make it even more ironical.

Oh god...

I just always love rising to these de-anonymization bluffs: dimino@gmail.com.

Let's put that good ol' spam filter to the test! I even operate under Inbox Zero, so rest assured I'll deal with every email the supposed mob is going to send me.

This is a pointless straw man argument

You're claiming that is the majority of your use?

If it's an HOA or small mailing list (obviously without DOI), then what is your click tracking functionality for? (I mean, the question answers itself...)

Sure, I get a lot of value from those emails. But I'd prefer the company that is sending them to be paying for the right to do so, and not circumventing the restrictions of a free email service.

I have no doubt Google will discover this and block the service, and we'll all be better off for it.

Literally? I don't think so, no.

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