That's the rub. XR was supposed to be the Asia phone with dual-sim and sacrificing OLED to get a bigger phablet.
Instead we have "which X to choose" dilemma.
By doing so, they're effectively sacrificing a massive portion of the Asian market. Oh well.
Huawei on other hand has rather different marketing plan - they make somewhat expensive products for ordinary people, even thought some of their phones can cost more than $1000 USD in maxed out configuration (leather and hand made editions)
Apple on another hand has really little appeal to this demographic, on both brand identity front, and product match.
That surely sounds unusual to a Western person, but that how it is. Huawei buyer is a well off working man in late twenties or early thirties with few more things to care about in his life than his phone.
Car analogy: Huawei - a nice full size sedan, a show of success for a common man; Apple - an "economy supercar" like Black Badge edition RR Ghost, something what broke millionaire wannabees buy
https://www.gizmochina.com/2018/10/26/huawei-mate-20-and-mat...
Indeed, but they also have the "3rd world iPhone" models - respins of previous generations and "C" model which were to supposedly cater to this market.
They greatly overestimated willingness of locals into buying "poor man's Rolce Royce editions"
So none of those benefits really matter.
I thought we were talking about China here.
Their back account might hold for a couple of decades to come, but eventually they will need to come up with something else.
Last I checked, they haven't run out of people to sell Macs to and they have been around for 35 years....u
Or are you saying that the "current generation of phones should be enough for anyone", Bill Gates style[1]?
And if Apple experience the PC vs Mac “problem” that seems to be a good thing. Apple is the only company making any serious money selling computers while the rest of the PC industry is struggling trying to chase after a few pennies. Apple just reported its highest revenue ever for a quarter selling Macs.
[1] Before, I get "well, actuallied", I know there is no proof he ever said that.
Macs are a tiny percentage of current business, and only at reach of first world countries. Around 10% world wide.
Phones don't last forever, which is another reason not to spend diamonds on them.
The Mac had 5.3 Billion in revenue last quarter.
The Mac by itself had higher revenue than McDonalds. If the Mac were a standalone business it would by itself have higher revenue than all but 110 companies in the Fortune 500.
And you seem to think there is actually profit by chasing after pennies in none first world countries.
Why the Mac is still around doesn't matter...
https://www.amazon.com/Cult-Mac-Leander-Kahney/dp/1593271220
I think everyone is entitled to a mobile phone without having to give diamonds in exchange for one.
You realize Jobs has been dead since 2011?
The book offer still stands.
Do you still use a PC running Windows 95?
You should read about “sustaining innovations”. It’s the other part of the “Innovator’s Dilemma” that most people ignore.
The MacBook Air, Mac Mini, and the iMac Pro got rave reviews and again, the market spoke - the Mac had its highest revenue quarter ever.
If you put an iPhone 8 next to an OnePlus 6T, the iPhone will look like an Ford Model T next to the latest Ford model from 2019.
Tech is also fashion, when we carry it around everywhere.
And this is besides the fact that Android comes with quite a few of its own benefits, things which you can't find on iPhones.
Also, that Android phone you buy will stop getting updates in 18 months if you’re lucky. The iPhone 5s from 2013 is still running the latest OS.
Slower in doing what? Posting a pic/video on Wechat? Making a money transfer? Playing a game?
Phones today are where the PC market was about a decade ago when 4GB RAM and a Core 2 Duo SoCs became common and offered enough performance for users to not have to upgrade their laptop every 3-5 years.
We don't have to look at AnandTech-style benchmark analysis anymore to figure out whether a midrange Android in 2019 will serve most needs.
No one cares about lack of updates on Android phones, only geeks like us.
In fact many consumers disable automatic updates with fear that an update will bring a totally new UI to their favourite apps, forcing them to relearn where everything has gone to.
Finally, by being much cheaper means that when time comes to upgrade, one gets a shiny new handset without any kind of scratches or half broken screen.
Not everyone wants a computer on their pocket.
Well. Used to. This year was the first year I could buy it straight in the shop on day one. I knew right then Apple has problems.
Being kind of a car guy, I wondered how well it would work for them. Because to this day it stumps me when a luxury car manufacturer makes a budget model. The poster child for that was the Cadillac Cimarron. Take a Chevy Cavalier (one-step-above-the-low-end compact car), stick leather seats and a Cadillac badge on it, sorted. C'mon, Cadillac, people scraping together the money so they can say they own a "Cadillac" are not the people that will be upgrading to an El Dorado later. No, in fact, that they overpaid for a Chevy Cavalier because of a badge means they likely lack the financial sense to ever own a real Cadillac. All you've done is damage your brand, and pissed off Cadillac owners. (Don't get me started on the Jaguar X-type.)
In the same vein, the budget model iPhones made me wonder if you're ever going to pull those customers into what is an relatively expensive ecosystem. HN is a poor indicator, but all I've ever heard here is "I like the SE because size" not "hey, I saved a few bucks".
Now that I can actually afford it, I look at my OnePlus 5T and wonder why I would ever want "more phone" than it
I’ve kept that phone for 3 years now.
$1000 mark just seems too steep for something that easily breaks or gets stolen.
Esp when it’s not that different from my iPhone8