Open Source Messenger App for Android – Real-Time Messaging, Voice and Video

So general public will always use fb messanger / whatsup forever. Awesome.

Signal is only atleast somehow secure app that regular people use because it has great unified ux and just works.

Just use Signal. Please

You mean whatsapp ?

Are you seriously objecting to someone just asking for the license the code is distributed under to be followed?

Which requires to use apple id.

Use the built in backup and restore and you dont lose your groups. Signal's primary design direction is encryption and privacy, you're going to have to compromise somewhere.

I havent had these issues. Actually i started to use desktop app with groups for light colaboration - sending audio notes, pdfs and images.

I am thinking if this is happening could google be throttling signal somehow? That is the thing i have always worried about.

I totally agree. Signal's UX is awful (regular user here).

I've had the same issues and a similar experience after using Signal the past few years. It took so much effort to convince my closest friends to install Signal and the single most frustrating thing it would do is force us back to SMS because sending of encrypted messages would continuously fail.

What really sucks is that there's no hope of me convincing them to switch again if a better messenger were to come along.

Signal has some serious problems and I'm glad other people out there are talking about this, too.

I ended up stopping using Signal (except for a few holdouts) because of the message delivery problems; it caused way too many social problems.

I mostly use Telegram now, and it's been great. The worst part about it is everyone saying "but it's russian spyware!!" whenever I suggest it. It isn't, folks, and I'm well apprised of the theoretical vulnerabilities. They're just a compromise I'm more than happy to make, when the alternative is a chat tool that fails at chatting even 5% of the time.

I must contradict your Signal bashing really.

I'm a heavy signal user for about 5 years, never had any of the issues you're describing. Regularly sending 3-4 minute videos it all goes through fine. Exported/imported my chat history 4 times now when changing phones, never had an issue. Never seen messages to be sent out of order either. I really wonder if we're using the same app!

1:1 chats have worked fairly well for me, but groups have been utter chaos with messages being delivered only to random subsets of the group and things like that.

Using Signal for years also. I don't have any of these problems except during group messages. Group messages for whatever reason are inconsistent, don't send, or sometimes break apart into single messages and then join again into the group. There was one group message between me and my two cousins that broke for hours. I didn't get any texts or couldn't send anything and signal was constantly trying to download images.

I'm still unable to unsee https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram/blob/master/TMessagesProj/... :)

Some of it could be cleaned up fairly easily - like the use of Yoda conditions and other anti-patterns, numerous spelling mistakes, dead (commented out) code, redundant casts, unused variables etc. But the major problem is no separation of concerns (business logic is tightly coupled with UI logic and Android framework dependencies), which makes writing any automated tests for the thing next to impossible right now. Resolving this issue would require major refactoring.