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Yeah, a whole lot of us do not get it either.

I am committed to change. This system has gutted me twice now. I didn't even get sick, though at one point I basically traded a house for someone I loved.

We are long past need for reform.

> Coming from, and only ever having lived in countries that have socialized medical care, I will never understand the general lack of goodwill towards one's fellow countrymen that your country continually rails against it.

You can probably understand in the UK how certain groups are systematically trying to gut their NHS. That seems to be the same mentality that is going in the US. Make medical care all about maximizing profit.

I can understand why those who put money and greed above people who are systematically trying to gut the NHS. I understand because to many, their God is money. Their be all and end all of life. Their alpha and their omega.

Don't confuse that with me understanding them. I am a people before everything kind of guy. In the immortal words of Princess Leia - "If money is all you love, then that's what you'll receive."

I'm vehemently opposed to the NHS being privatized. It's an institution and the crown jewel that sets Britain aside from the rest of the world. To see people supporting their attempts to privatize it and send Britain down the same path as the U.S. in my mind is the ultimate failure of the British people and it infuriates me - worse even than Brexit.

When did we become a people who believed the lies and rhetoric spewed by those on TV over our own education? When did we become a people who just blindly followed what we were told like lambs to the slaughter?

I thought we were better than that, honestly. It makes me sick.

If you could run an insurance that doesnt do any of all of this, or a hospital that didnt engage in all of this, it would exist.

Wanna guess why you cant?

Because enough people are making a lot of money from the status quo

Competition can destroy any position with oversized profits. Try again!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_of_need

>I will never understand the general lack of goodwill towards one's fellow countrymen

Homogeneous populations are required for this. When the US was least diverse, during the 1930s-60s, the public was largely supportive of public social welfare. Despite right-wingers guffawing over European nations importing more "diversity" of late, the US is way ahead in diversifying the nation into islands of "diversity" with a rump "historic" American nation in the outlying surrounding areas. The "diverse" populations (and their "historic" allies) are inculcated with neo-Marxist propaganda that frames the people whose nation they are invading and whose largesse they are seeking to exploit as class enemies. The "historic" population has long sensed this animosity but cannot articulate it publicly and oppose it in a straightforward manner without their opponents, including the vast majority of major media, ostracizing them as dangerous lunatics. The "diverse" are deemed inherently virtuous while the "historic" inherently evil -- blood libel updated for the 21st century. What sane person who is a part of the "historic" American population would support having most of his money taken in tax to support a growing population of people who do not share his ancestry, culture, or values and who view him as inherently evil? Thus we see opposition to social welfare programs that disparately impact/benefit the "diverse" populations.

TL;DR: Most "Americans" are not "fellow countrymen" at all but distinct factions engaged in a simmering war with each other.

I fear for this happening to Europe. Immigrants put an excessive strain on the NHS, for example. One of the talking points of the Leave campaign.

Um... have you not noticed that a large portion of those providing medical care in the NHS are those same immigrants? Immigrants by and large are equal parts of the solution to problems. If you remove them all, you will quickly realise that most of the problems still remain caused by those who will continue to be ungrateful and just blame something and someone else for their problems.

Alright, I'm the creator of this user account and the one that made it public, and I'm going to claim it back now. Maybe I'm a dumb kid, but I think if any country can maintain a highly diverse population without internal "simmering war", it's the US. The greed of hospitals is not somehow explained by xenophobia. Generations of people born in perverse power structures, doing their best to strengthen and reinforce them, seems much more suitable of an explanation. Genetics will mix and people will evolve. Deal with it.