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I am not all that impressed with Dyson vacuum cleaners vs say Meile. A bit too much form, a bit to little function.

Dyson himself is not one of my favourite people. This move seems very hypocritical.

There are a couple of YouTube videos from AvE (he takes a bit of getting used to, but he knows a fair bit about electronics) about a Dyson vacuum cleaner [1] and hair dryer [2]. Lots of moulded plastic and glue, little substance. On the other hand, Miele recently repaired an old vacuum cleaner [3] that worked for 30 years before breaking.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPTzNJMd19A

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-vJxez9UF8

[3] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34290597

Loved~~ his tear down of Juicero!

Had a wasching machine (like 300 Euros). It broke in a way that the replacement part was only available for 350Euros.

Got a Miele than.

Looking forward to not to have to think about it for the next 10-20 years.

We have a Henry, which is far cheaper than a Miele and almost as indestructible.

Dyson is overpriced brightly coloured plastic pretending to be "design." The one we bought had a stupid moulded plug that would fall out of the power socket with the gentlest tug.

It also regularly overheated and shut down for random periods. And it was a nightmare of mess to empty, sending dust everywhere.

A strange company, suggestive of the worst of British opportunism. Apparently there's an old British fighter jet hanging above the canteen in the HQ, but it seems that's just for show when there's more profit to be made by moving to a different country.

I've never understood the cult mentality in consumer products like Dyson and Apple. There are many very good products that are as good and many times better than these cult products.

As for the move, I'm sure it's profit based for the purpose of cheaper labor or being closer to the target consumer, but only an insider would really know the real reason.

There are many copycats out there. Bagless vacuum cleaners were anemic when the Dyson was new. Thin business quality laptops simply didn't exist (Apple adapted aluminum welding technology from airplane ribs to build the unibody mac book)

You must be joking.

Those product are the best products out there. They could be overpriced, yes. But other products "many times better", no way!!

Other products could be cheaper, but better, no they are not.

You can't compare an aluminum laptop with a plastic one, filled with spyware(from vendors and Windows today is spyware too), a screen that is sh*t and a battery that last nothing because the manufacturer has not optimized it like Apple has. Not to talk about the chipset electronics, Apple has a volume that gives them the Upper hand choosing the best components.

The Dyson urinals I see in pub bathrooms are awful, they spray everything everywhere, a bit too much form, a bit too little function.

I find if they are mounted at the right height they can be fine. But some are mounted to optimally spray your face with the water from both your own and previous users' hands... disgusting. At least the taps with the built-in Dyson dryers have not taken off - if used with a shallow sink, the dryer just sprays up water from the bowl into your front.

Also the hand dryers: You better have precision wrist control or your gonna touch the surface and catch the previous toileteer’s bugs.

Or worse, one just needs to be within 3 metres of the machine. [1]

[1] "Dyson Airblades 'spread germs 1,300 times more than paper towels'" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/13/dyson-airblades-...

The airblade is definitely a victory of design over function. It simply doesn't work well.

Yes, the Excel Dryer Excelerator is far more effective at drying (but probably even more effective at scattering germs all over).

Wait are we talking about urinals or hand dryers? I have yet to encounter a Dyson urinal, but my sense of humor really wants one to exist.

It was a joke that nobody seems to be getting, but I was implying that I pee unaware into the hand-dryers.

I fucking hate those hand dryers. I have large hands with long fingers. I have to contort my fingers, hands and wrists while trying to not touch the edges or dip my finger tips into that disgusting collection of water at the bottom of the dryer.

Utter garbage. Just use the old dryers or paper towels ffs.

I agree. When our cleaner started with us, we had the latest Dyson vacuum. We asked what she would prefer and she asked for a Miele. The Miele is still going strong ten years later, whereas the Dyson broke sometime after its second repair (lots and lots of brittle plastic).

I don't even understand the premise of bagless being better than bagged. I had a Dyson for a long time and cleaning out that container was always a huge mess. And it had to be done constantly. I've got a Miele now and it's quiet, cleans better, built like a tank, and swapping out the bag takes 20 seconds once every couple months.

It's the convenience of not having to swap bags, not performance, which is actually worse, not to mention emptying the canister in the trash releases lots of allergens and dust in the air.

He's probably a hypocrite though his reason for supporting the Brexit seems to be around additional EU regulation that squashes innovation. The belief that we are in a time of oppressive regulation is rampant so he's hardly a epicenter for such thinking.

As far as his vacuum design, the Dyson engineering team is superb. Their motors, electronics, programming and bagless designs are miles ahead of anyone else in the industry.

The dyson ball and canisters are lack luster in their class and use cheap engineering gimmicks and too much metallic painted plastic to win over big spending shoppers. The true success story for Dyson is the "motorhead" cordless vacuums. They are skookum.

My girlfriend's Dyson is miserable to empty - all the girls in the house have long hair, and that makes emptying it a 'shove your hand in and pull the mass of hair and dust out' job, nothing like the way it looks in the advert.

I had a DC-01 back in the day, didn't like it at all as the main part of it that runs on the floor was too tall to get under any of the furniture - unlike the vorwerk that it replaced, and the £30 cheapo standard vacuum cleaner that replaced it (and lasted 3 times as long).

I felt the same with the Dyson stuff, lots of form and advertising.... but I didn't see the value there.

I ended up buying a Shark vacuum.

They always struck me as the Bose of suction.

I can't speak for Dyson as a person, but I have a Dyson handheld that is absolutely phenomenal.

Let's avoid unnecessary pile-ons.

The Dyson cordless vacuum is the only Dyson product I have any real respect for. It’s quite good, although I think its main claim to fame is a lack of credible competition so far.

Certainly the Dyson electric hand dryers in retail bathrooms seem to suck even more than the average dryer.

My Dyson "stick vacuum" was the only Dyson I've ever owned, and it was total crap. I actually called them on the phone and asked why it turned off on me constantly (not overheating), and they said it was a design flaw with the battery in the handle. And therefore too bad.

It was a pain in the ass the whole time we used it, and I will never buy a Dyson again. It was over $200, and its replacement was $30 and lasted almost as long (which was still super short).

I have a cordless dc-44 and really love it. It helps that my house is small enough to clean on a single charge, but its' like the combination of a dustbuster and real vacuum; easy enough to grab for any mess, which means you're more likely to use it regularly. shrug

I get the cheapest vacuum at Kmart and it works superbly. The “bagless” usp is long dead.

I can see how people will talk about Tesla in same words some 5 years later.

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