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I wonder how many potential sedan buyers are just deferring their purchases awaiting a cheap electric with good range?

I'm waiting for the Miata of EVs to appear. If the original Tesla Roadster weren't so expensive and had supercharging support I'd already drive one.

Not interested in the EVs which resemble smartphones on wheels, surveillance I can't control in my automobile? No thanks.

At this rate I'm very tempted to buy a wrecked Model S and retrofit the powertrain into a 60s something or other.

That and we have taken massive depreciation hits, which makes is less desirable to sell or trade if you financed a bunch of your purchase.

I'm waiting for an electric Toyota Tacoma. Meanwhile, I drive a Civic. It's not too bad, but it only gets 34.2 mpg (long term average) with 80% highway driving. I may need to review my driving habits though. I got used to 51 mpg with my Jetta TDI but they were cheating of course.

>I'm waiting for an electric Toyota Tacoma.

I bet those would fly off the lots and into driveways in nice neighborhoods as fast as Toyota can make them. A hybrid Tacoma would have all the "I'm handy, but not some hick that drives a full-size" implication of a new Tacoma with the implied environmentalism of a Prius.

I'm not saying this applies to you personally BTW, just that the "image" a hybrid Tacoma projects would subconsciously seal the deal for a lot of buyers.

Honda is coming out with a hybrid Ridgeline next year, and that image is definitely the customer they're after.

Waiting for a station-wagon, actually

This.

BTW, fellow wagon connoisseur... Have you seen the 2018 Porsche Panamera wagon?

Porsche used to be cool looking beautiful vehicles for whatever time periods. They really went downhill when they released the Cheyenne.

The Cayenne and Macan are their best selling vehicles and largely credited with keeping the company in business.

Macan turbo is a cool looking car. But I also have an extremely low opinion about people who decide to purchase a performance sports car brand, and then pick the SUV model.

The Cayenne is ugly and it's a rare sight to see one driven by a responsible driver. The only reason I can anecdotally say that is because they are ugly and stick out like a sore thumb. It actually was memorable when I saw one using a turn signal and obeying the speed limit. It was like seeing a unicorn.

And the Panamera can tow a boat (seriously, IIRC, the euro model can tow a few thousand pounds - US car isn't rated because lawyers).

Yeah, but... https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3817/9066371914_b93ba47d92_b.j...

People want room. US emissions standards push manufacturers to turn bigger vehicles into trucks.

CAFE is weirdly anti wagon.

https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/10/how-cafe-killed-co...

New Volvo V60 looks pretty nice, and has a plugin hybrid option too, if that's your thing.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/10/the-volvo-v60-wagon-is-...

They are just buying SUVs. The overall amount of cars being bought hasn't gone down.

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