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It turns out it didn't take computer AI "taking over" to just arbitrarily decide you're out, or wrong, or whatever with no recourse.

A company of humans have decided that's ok.

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No single human says this is ok. There is no human consensus this is ok. This is a form of non-human intelligence taking over.

it's not an "intelligence" so much as emergent properties of systems. there are fields like system dynamics and macroeconomics that study such things.

Yes — but all "intelligence" is an emergent property of systems. And because the system in this instance is not a human brain, it's non-human intelligence.

It’s not really intelligence, so much as selection pressure in the direction of high margin. Evolution isn’t “intelligence” either, but still leads to interesting or highly honed solutions to problems.

It's certainly not selection pressure. Google's systems did not evolve because similar companies out-competed and reproduced more effeciently than dissimilar companies. The metaphor doesn't work at all.

Yeah, I actually pretty much agree, I was more responding to the point that nobody made a decision for it to be this way, and that is intelligence. I actually think that it was something that was intentially planned for purely margin reasons.

No, it's humans at Google deciding that the financial trade off is worth it. The CEO has the power to change it, but think it's an okay state of affairs.

I think Google is aware of this issue and the powers that be clearly are ok with it.

No. This is simply lack of communication, both between computers and humans. All it takes is a couple DBs becoming unjoined in a query or someone not telling the full story for information to be lost.

Corporations are the first generation of general AI.

Or the first generation of responsibility laundering.

"Corporations as slow AI" is subject that SF author and occasional HN poster Charlie Stross (@cstross) touched on in a presentation at CCC in 2017[1]

1. http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2018/01/dude-you...

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