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Corporations aren’t allowed to “finance” “political campaigns.” When OpenSecrets says stuff like “Google” contributed $X million to Democrats, it’s lying. What really happens is Google employees contributed that money.

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While on paper there is are still limits on direct contributions to campaign organizations, the Citizen's United decision (combined with SpeechNOW vs. FEC) enables companies to instead donate to SuperPACs which are in theory independently controlled. I personally believe the distinction is for all intents and purposes meaningless. Doubly so when considering how little enforcement of the separation has actually been pursued.

So, yes, I do believe companies finance political campaigns. Whether the money flows through campaign organizations is not an important distinction to me.

It’s not a matter of what you “believe.” In election law, the “campaign” is a specific thing and financing it is something with specific meaning. Having an independent entity run ads because it happens to support that candidate is not “financing the campaign.”

Leaving that aside, SuperPACs account for just 15% of election spending in 2016. It’s inaccurate to even suggest that corporate money and money from wealthy donors is the dominant factor in campaigns.

While this is technically true, it's de facto false. With the Citizens United ruling, corporations can donate unlimited funds: "[Super PACs] can raise funds from individuals, corporations, unions, and other groups without any legal limit on donation size."[1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_action_committee

SuperPACs can’t use that money to “finance campaigns.”

For most intents and purposes this changed with Citizens United v FEC.

What about when the FEC says that Google's PAC donated to particular Republican politicians?

Google’s PAC is just a way to pool donations from Google’s employees. That money can’t come out of the corporate treasury.

That's ostensibly true, but if you talk to people who actually donate to these PACs you find they break down into high-level management (ie: the company itself; people with more-than-normal control over compensation) and "employees who sort of opt-in as a show of support for the company but who have no real idea what the PAC does".

I think it's more than fair to attribute the Google PAC to Google, and not to a diffuse group of Google employees.

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