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It's part of their new philosophy not to make anything configurable or anything "advanced" easy, unless you're jumping through some hoops.

I still can't get over the fact that they removed the ability to view individual cookies and their values from the browser.

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No, it's part of the philosophy that this particular feature led to users suddenly being without tab bar and basically having a broken browser. Although I do believe they're still weighing that against the benefits of being able to use TST without needing to go through extra hoops.

You can still view individual cookies and their values: open the dev tools, then the Storage tab.

> feature led to users suddenly being without tab bar and basically having a broken browser

That's a stupid reason if thats what they care about. Just make it part of the about:config at least if you are so worried about "dumb users".

It's not so much the users they care about but the fact they have to deal with all the support requests, plus the complaining on social media that Firefox is dumb and bad. At some point it's net-negative for the project. So sometimes they open functionality to extensions instead of having it easily available to users, like the option to disable JavaScript on pages.

I should clarify that "users suddenly being without a tab bar" might not necessarily be the result of those users disabling it themselves. It might be that they install an extension like TST that doesn't restore the tab bar after it's removed, or something even less obvious.

The obvious solution would be to have a config preference that the Tree Style Tabs extensions could toggle, but not expose it in the UI...

> they removed the ability to view individual cookies and their values from the browser

Moved, not removed. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Storage_Inspe...

If it is only available in the Developer Toolbox then it has been removed as far as end users are concerned.

End users are not supposed to be poking around in developer tools.

I don't know what sort of "end user" you expect to be poking around in cookie contents. The developer tools storage inspector always provided a much better user interface for doing so, and also exposes localStorage and IndexedDB data. I don't see why anybody interested in this sort of thing would have used the previous interface anyway.

Right click, press q, click storage/cookies.. what am I missing here?

access dev tools (on Linux†) using: Ctrl+Shift+i then navigate to: storage > cookies

† no idea what it is on a Mac

I'm able to just use F12 on Ubuntu.

Oh! Same here… Thanks!

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