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Most of my mobile users(64 %) has the page added to the home screen, and it's awesome.

There is however one problem in all things web: Apple.

The amount of bugs in Safari on iOS is incredible and the developers should be ashamed of their work. Safari is literally worse than IE6 was.

But sure, users can just switch to Chrome.. Oh, wait, we're talking iOS here, so there is only one engine, and that engine is broken. So the only option is to get a decent phone, aka not an iPhone.

Like, how freaking hard can it be to make a browser that doesn't need to be restarted just to make touch or keyboard working again?

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Apple has a financial incentive for making the browser as bad as possible for anything complicated. After all, they don’t get a 30% cut from browser apps.

Actually, they do get a cut from "browser apps" in the sense that they are paid by a big search/surveillance-based ad company to make their search engine default in the browser.

And again, they have a huge financial incentive to make the browser as good as possible because it makes the hardware as useful and wonderful as possible, which are currently the two most important factors for the most successful product that our planet has seen yet.

I'm kind of surprised by these 'browser is so bad' comments. Anyone here tried to make a browser before? Anyone make one less buggy than Safari?

>I'm kind of surprised by these 'browser is so bad' comments. Anyone here tried to make a browser before? Anyone make one less buggy than Safari?

So? By that argument almost nothing can be compared or criticized or discussed. Also, people aren't saying that making a browser is easy or that they can do it better or that Safari didn't do it well. They're saying that Safari did it badly compared to other existing mobile browsers. You don't need to build something to be able to compare it against something else.

>I'm kind of surprised by these 'browser is so bad' comments. Anyone here tried to make a browser before? Anyone make one less buggy than Safari?

not personally, but firefox and chrome both exist and are much better than Safari. Are you trying to argue that it's not possible for Safari to be better than it currently is?

No. I’m plainly stating, “really, you guys think Safari is horribly buggy or bad? I think it is really, really good.”

> Safari is literally worse than IE6 was.

You're joking, right?

Is there a way to know when a site is loaded from the home screen instead of the browser?

Yes, window.navigator.standalone

As the previous guy said you can check for standalone on iOS. You can also add an parameter to the URL so it opens eg. /?homescreen or something like that.

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