Nerdy, socially awkward me at the time couldn't think of a comeback and I felt embarrassed that I didn't get her a beer or cocktail. But I was also really annoyed, like logically, why am I the embarrassed one here? Today's me would have a lot more confidence and some witty comebacks. :)
But... part of me wonders... how much did that guy really believe what he was saying, and how much was that guy also just a scared kid inside trying to act cool and fit in due to the imagery he's been bombarded with?
Neither. It's a common joke used when people get water when there's a bar close by. Nothing more, nothing less. It doesn't have to be believed, and one does not have to be a "scared kid inside" to say it. I think you just read way too much into it, perhaps since it was your first encounter with said joke.
>> It’s actually crazy how lightly we treat this addictive, toxic substance that we joke about despite how many people it kills every year and harms directly and indirectly.
As a personal aside, I find jokes that put down others to be distasteful. You don't need to denigrate to be funny. Unless the target is in on the joke. Laughing at oneself is OK. Laughing at others when the target is not laughing is not OK.
"The findings reveal that the widespread perception of the French as a healthy nation is rapidly becoming outdated."
I always found defending your drinking with the "a glass of wine a day is good for your heart" study a bit lame. But advocating abstinence because no level of alcohol is safe is very narrow minded as well.
Saying I accept the harm for this benefit is fine, but pretending it does not exist is irrational.
[edit] In the article cited in NPR, https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2818... , which makes the claim "zero consumption minimises risk", you can see that ischemic heart disease & diabetes risks actually go down for 1 glass a day, while cancer & tuberculosis go slightly up. Their own chart of "relative weighted risk from all attributable causes" is flat-line for the first 1 glass/day. And that's from the paper that's cited to say "no level of alcohol consumption is safe!"
“Every category of drinking was associated with an increased risk of cancer.”
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/268874745_Alcohol_c...
PS: The study included what it called light drinking as a cancer risk. I am less generous with terminology.
Overall, your meta-study hardly proves that "any quantity of alcohol is bad for your health"; quite the contrary in fact, I'd say.
[] 1 glass of wine a day according to their definition.
Each cancer type is independently analyzed independently. 1 wine a day measurably increases overal cancer risks as stated by the authors. Rather than assuming you have a better understanding after a quick analysis you may want to rethink your analysis.
Hint the base rate for each cancer is not equivalent.
Where? I just re-read it and didn't see this conclusion.
(And even if they did - it's just cancer. What if we include heart diseases, too?)
“In the present study, alcohol drinking was associated withcancer of the oral cavity and pharynx, oesophagus (SCC) andfemale breast even at low doses. These results represent an updateand corroboration of previously published findings on the linkbetween light alcohol drinking and cancer (Bagnardi et al, 2013).Given the high proportion of light drinkers in the population andthe high incidence of these tumours, especially breast cancer(Ferlay et al, 2010), even small increases in cancer risk might be of great public health relevance. Approximately 5000 deaths from oraland pharyngeal cancer, 24 000 from oesophageal SCC and 5000 from breast cancer were attributable to light drinking in 2004worldwide (Bagnardi et al, 2013).”
Yes, some cancers where negatively associated with drinking, but the net effect was negative over the range of cancers studied.
As to light drinking and heart disease, that link is under some question as to the relative gain from drinking vs associated lifestyle factors. Short term controlled studies suggest some benifit, but it’s less clear for younger drinkers and people with good cardiovascular heath.
At a guess, the benifit of moderate drinking might win somewhere between 40 and 70 depending on specific risk factors.
Dealing with tiny risk factors is very difficult, and it's easy to make the wrong conclusions. See also the vast majority of reporting on whether x food is good or bad for you.
Also, studies find driving a car to be dangerous. Same with leaving your house.
The UK talks about "units" of alcohol. One unit is 10ml of pure alcohol. Drinks in the UK are labled with their Alcohol by Volume (ABV) percentage. To work out how many units are in a drink you multiply the serving size in litres by the ABV number. Current UK guidelines are no alcohol at all if you're pregnant, and less than 14 units a week with some days alcohol free and don't save up the units for a binge.
In the past wine used to be weaker and serving sizes were smaller. One unit of wine is one glass at 125ml at 8%. In the UK by law everywhere selling glass by the wine has to offer a 125ml serving. That doesn't have to be a prominent offer though, it could be a footnote to the menu. UK serving sizes tend to be 175ml (for a small) or 250ml (for a large). This means there's huge variation in the quantity that people drink when they describe "5 glasses a week".
Five glasses * 125ml * 8%ABV is 5 units.
Five glasses * 175ml * 12.5%ABV is 11 units.
Five glasses * 250ml *12.5%ABV is 15.5 units.
15 units a week isn't hugely worrying, but it's a big difference. I guess we'd want people drinking 15 units a week to unwind after work to take up some exercise or mindfulness instead.
There's some cultural variation too. When a middle class couple in the UK talk about "a glass of wine" that could mean "half a bottle", and "a few times a week" could mean "most days". I used to work in a factory and people spoke about "going for a beer" after work, and that never meant one beer, it meant a drinking session where two or three beers are drunk.
I’ve always found it easier to visualize drink quantities relative to a standard bottle, 750ml for most wine and spirits.
So that 250ml serving is 1/3 of a bottle per glass.
https://www.askitalian.co.uk/menu/menu/drinks/
https://www.jamieoliver.com/italian/restaurants/birmingham/m...
https://www.nandos.co.uk/food/menu
https://www.zizzi.co.uk/drinks#white
etc etc.
And these large glasses are used in many homes. I have no problem believing that people are drinking glasses of wine this big, mostly because I see them do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNq-JcVlYD4
Kinda slow - so recommend watching on 1.5x speed or so.
In the end, we're simply willfully poisoning ourselves. For some reason we, as a society, have decided that it's OK to poison ourselves with certain substances (caffeine, cigarette smoke) but not others (heroin, methamphetamines). We've made this socially acceptable. So if by "ok" you mean socially acceptable, thensure, it's ok.
There's little evidence that drinking coffee or tea is bad for you overall. In contrast, anything beyond very moderate alcohol consumption is almost certainly bad for you.
But yes, I agree to your larger point that coffee is less dangerous than alcohol.
Does it do that to a significant extent to regular users, though? I thought the stimulant effects mostly went away once you build up a tolerance.
Similarly, there is little diuretic effect for regular coffee drinkers:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140402-are-coffee-and-tea-...
As to stimulation effect for regular users... I guess it might depend, but for me, I do notice when I drink too much coffee. And I am a "regular user" - I'd say I drink around 4 espresso a day (which is not a problem, but if say I bump that up to 10, I definitely feel it)
By "not ok" I mean "actually harmful to your health". I don't buy the argument that "there is no safe dosage of alcohol", I've seen the claim but not actual evidence. AFAIK the liver is perfectly able to deal with small quantities of alcohol.
I'd also add that alcohol definitely bothers people, maybe not just you.
I do like beer and wine so I will have one on occasion. I found it makes them actually taste better, as I savor it now.
Some other side benefits is that it saves a TON of money, and I consume less calories. Alcohol is expensive, particularly in a bar or restaurant. Less calories is obvious.
These days it is mostly acceptable to decline alcohol.
My own first thought was "Mad Men"'s portrayal of privileged office workers in the mid-20th century.
Of course, my second thought was my own office in the present day. Has this culture ever really gone away? I work for a tech startup, and there's a fully-stocked beer fridge and cocktail bar setup at all times. They're one of the first things that recruiters show off when I go on interviews to other similar companies.
Every single company event, or small group outing, basically revolves around alcohol. I'm not a teetotaler, but I am a parent in my 40's who has kinda lost interest in drinking, and I'm starting to feel alienated by that part of the industry's culture. I don't want to feel like I have accept the beer you're offering me in order to fit in with a team, or give up my evening with my family to go watch you stand in a circle and get shit-faced in front of your co-workers.
This is 2019, in our own industry.
It's possible I'm being naive as to what my coworkers are up to, but the "Man Men", 3 martini lunch culture has certainly gone away.
It's fair to complain that a company's social events revolve around alcohol, but, explicitly, when people talk about "company culture" and "good fit", internal company norms around alcohol are a huge part of it. There are workplaces that are basically a continuation of college frat houses, down to the levels of sexual harassment that make Uber look hospitable. There are also workplaces where everyone goes leaves at 5pm on the dot to get home to be with their partner/kids, and the Christmas party is a potluck with very limited amounts of wine.
Pick your poison. The recruiter is there to, well, recruit you, and they can't know how a given candidate feels about alcohol consumption, so if they too-gleefully show off their bar - push back! Ask how much people actually drink - there's a difference between between zero and one beer after work with coworkers (I just drink a la croix/talking rain while my coworker who does drink, drinks a beer), vs drinking liquor to excess.
Before there were any special taxes on liquer in Denmark, it wasn't uncommon to buy a bottle before work, and finish it through the day (this would be just after the Victorian age, so those workers probably needed) and of course the Gin Wagons in the UK are legendary for a reason.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irn-Bru
Unfortunately the sugar tax, a tax on sugar-laded drinks, has resulted in them changing the recipe and now it's disgusting tasting.
Alcohol is a funky beast, for sure.
I agree.
About a month ago I went to a social event where we would be doing XYZ. We finished our task and trundled for lunch; "when is the bar going to be open" was a common lament. All I wanted was to buy and eat pizza; which I did, but others were so very happy when the bartender showed up.
And this was lunch time. "Noon", for example. Martinis were wanted. I just wanted pizza.
It all worked out. But it was worth mentioning.