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Are many people really locked into the apple ecosystem. Most apps that people here in the UK use are cross-platform too...

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The key differentiator is that in China your smartphone can in many ways be abstracted down to the platform that runs WeChat. So Apple's key lock-ins like iMessage and FaceTime don't matter and it has to compete on price.

Apple greatly increased prices in the US/EU also and many of these regions are facing a recession too, but according to Tim Cook's letter those consumers didn't abandon the iPhone. What's unique to the Chinese market? WeChat.

Hmm... I'm not convinced by that. At least in the UK, I don't know many people who use FaceTime (WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger are the most popular video chat software). People do use iMessage, but that falls back to SMS if you don't have an iphone, and SMS messages are universally free here these days.

As a UK counterpoint, most of my friends and family (at least 15 people) use iPhones and iMessage/FaceTime is a major reason for sticking to the Apple ecosystem for us.

But in UK, there is not too many alternative phones, like Huawei, OPPO/vivo, Xiaomi. All those local players in China are based on Android, but still provide customized OS with unique features.

Huawei and Xiaomi phones are both available in the UK, along with the usual Samsung/Sony/Nokia, etc options.

But they are not UK's local manufactures. They are same as Apple as foreigner brands.

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