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Other game types exists, friend.

I've collectively dumped hundreds of hours in Factorio, Stardew Valley, and Kerbal Space Program.

You dont have to look very far to find games which have long play times and no lootboxes (which is a fairly recent thing). Sometimes, games are just good without exploitative mechanics

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I think between factorio, oxygen not included, minecraft, no mans sky and gemcraft (tower defense game) I'm probably in nearing 10 thousand hours of collective gameplay for a grand total of under $200. $0.02/hr is a hard number to beat. I don't think its possible for a movie or a song.

Even though these numbers are very anecdotal. The amount of money spent on a game vs the number of hours played shows that extra value could be extracted from the customer.

Netflix/Spotify model comes to mind. The collective pool of subscriptions fund creation of AAA titles just like the EA pass.

Perhaps, though I notice not a single one of the games I listed is an AAA title. I'm struggling to think of any AAA title that has held my attention for longer than 25 hours. I'd hate to subsidize the cost of an AAA title on the backs of indie developers who seem to be making games with a lot more sticking power/entertainment value.

I was an early fan of KSP. I've spent long, long hours in FTL. My latest gaming obsession was Heat Signature. No lootboxes in any of those. (Except as a joke in Heat Signature, and you can't convert real world currency into one of those.)

> Factorio, Stardew Valley, and Kerbal Space Program

Can u recommend some sort of a factorio for star-exploration type game ?

Kerbal itself is far too complex and detailed oriented for me

I've put >200 hours into Trials easy.. Tons of time into Dirt.

Love single player games with good story, but really sink time into challenging dexterity games I can play in short sessions for a break.

KSP and Rimworld combined make up almost 1000 hours of my time in the last 3 years for a total cost of $35.

Now that's value for money.

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