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Research estimates vaping is at least 95% less harmful than smoking

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How did they determine vaping is 95% less harmful than smoking? I don't see references to the methods they used to make this assessment. Where did that number come from? As far as I can tell, the number was just made up!

You do know the number 95% comes very frequently from statistical analysis right?

You know putting "right" at the end turns your comment from helpful to dickish, right?

You may be referring to p-values, and the arbitrary 0.05 threshold but in that case, the connection is risky at best and wrong in general (common misinterpretation of p-value as probability of alternative being false)

It comes up at least 95% of the time when discussing statistical analysis.

Here is Dr Rosemary’s twitter, she was quoted, you can ask her

https://twitter.com/DrRosemaryL

No, Dr Rosemary is not quoted in the article as coming up with the number 95%. That number is mentioned before she is quoted or her name is used

Ah ok

She mentione that it is much less harmful

Still not quantified with a source, maybe she knows one

Call me when multiple longitudinal studies independently verify that opinion.

I don’t see how many different types of “juice” they tested, maybe I missed it? I always hear (on HN) that it is certain types of flavored juice that is the most harmful, so I’m interested in which one(s) they tested

I call bullshit, they can’t just put out numbers like this. I remember that one of the last times that I stopped smoking happened because I was literally overdosing on nicotine from vaping almost continuously while drinking. I stopped for almost one year at the time because I was completely nauseated by vaping. I think that night was much worse than anything I smoked before, probably comparable to a red Marlboro smoked cutting the filter out (thanks Stephen king and the black tower.. -.- )

Hey, big tobacco is dead but welcome to era of big-vape!

Thankee-sai

Heavily editorialized HN title. The "research" mentioned in the article is not discussed in any detail, nor is any reference provided.

No sources or study data included with the article.

This is not news, this is propaganda.

I don't get why it is so difficult to check this. At this point there is probably a good amount of people that has been exclusively vaping for the past 10 or 20 years, after decades of smoking. The statistics for lung cancer and other smoke-related illnesses 10 or 20 years after quitting smoking completely should be already well known. It should be enough to compare the two to understand the difference in harm between smoking and vaping?

Phillip Morris owns Juul now, so it doesn’t surprise me that there might be efforts to throw smoking under the bus globally.

Altria, not Phillip Morris, bought a 35% stake, not full ownership.

website is down https://juul.com

Altria is Phillip Morris Inc's new name.

Altria is Phillip Morris.

I see their rebranding effort has been successful on you.

So it could be 99.99% but they are holding back...better to be pleasantly surprised. :)

Isn't it ironic that Philip Morris owns a nice chuck of Juul that aims to get rid of smoking. My guess is that they'll milk this for decades and then pay a small % of their profit to settle claims. Then they'll jump on another bandwagon, maybe buy El Chapo's Select. Rinse, repeat.

Misleading title. That's just a filling sentence in the middle of the article.

Now contains 100% less radium...

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