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  > Use C++98
  > Complain it's too simple to be expressive.
  > Get C++17
  > Complain it's too expressive to be simple.

Sometimes I think the real goal behind these complaints is not learning anything new or programming anything interesting.

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Oh I absolutely love C++11, 14 and 17. It's just that there are always some really dumb parts that are shipped together with the good parts. Like mandatory begin and end iterators for list comprehension, iota, unreadable syntax of C++20 ranges, etc.

Well, one objective part I can see in these complaints, is that it seems to be hard to assemble a sufficiently big team of sufficiently qualified C++ developers, for what the project requires. C++ skills are scarce and expensive. This seems to be confirmed by my own experience in my waters.

And then people proceed to put all blame on the language alone, and this does not match the reality anymore. Again, in my waters.

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