The Christians in China are very brave for standing by their faith, and I wish them luck and peace.
Of course Christians can be persecuted. Any minority is likely to face some level of persecution.
But in the US, it is so commonplace, so entrained in our society that it's hard to take the persecution claim seriously, particularly when weilded in response to things like bakers and their cake businesses.
In fact, that's an example of American ideals working as applied to government action. In an otherwise zero sum game it seeks to shield the minority at the expense of the majority.
Literally no one does this. Western Christians are incapable of facing persecution in the current social and economic climate. This is because Christians by and large make up every pillar of Western society. It has nothing to do with someone being a Christian else where in the world. The sentiment you are attempting to inaccurately portray is rooted in the fact that you have silly things like the "War on Christmas" and actual citizens (who are Christians) complaining that obeying the constitution and not imposing their religion on others is somehow equivalent to persecution.
Your conflation of the two is your own error, not others.
Feel free to link any kind of substantial material backing up the frequency of such opinions.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/egyptian-church-hit-by-bomb-bla...
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/29-coptic-christians-mu...
https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/06/18/mosuls-christians-say-g...
No one has said that Christians aren't persecuted around the world. No one has even implied this was the case. Because people don't hold such opinions.
He is implying that people hold these opinions. I am asking for some kind of substantial material validating the frequency of such opinions.
It helps to respond to the actual conversation instead of contrived strawmans. You are very much proving my point.
+1 For self-awareness, it would have saved you writing out that post.
What are the odds that I could go to ten different blogs from ten different Joe's from across the internet saying how bad it is for Christians in the world, come back here, link them, that you'll backpedal more to say that the sources provided aren't authoritative enough?
Because it's a common response to things like the gay wedding cake and "happy holidays," etc. It's not surprising those things evoke such a dismissal.
But such a dismissal is not all inclusive. Because we don't see, say, gay marriage as a persecution of Christianity doesn't mean we believe Christians are intrinsically incapable of being persecuted.
The poll won't yield the results you want. The prattling grandstand isn't clever, it's just a rather annoyingly insecure flamebait after you fumbled your original reply to me with links to articles that were entirely irrelevant to what was being discussed.
No one believes Christians can't be persecuted. OP is conflating the dismissal of Western Christian "persecution" with somehow believing that people just don't think it can happen elsewhere. I am here to tell you that people are quite aware of the possibility of true persecution happening against any group of people, and most certainly the actual persecution of Christians elsewhere in the world. The error, however honest it may be, is his. And apparently yours too.
This belies a grave misunderstanding of how human societies actually work. It doesn't matter how many of your team are out there in the world when you are one team blue in a room full of twenty team red. If a team has at least two members, then even in a society of billions it is possible for them to be the majority sometimes.
I mean if you're going to just go "big number greater than smaller number" and attribute that to a deep understanding of human societies and general political power structures how on earth are you going to explain the current geopolitical situation as it stands today? That's incredibly daft, and your attempt at labeling it as "grave misunderstanding of how human societies actually work" is absurd.
It is not a Christian thing, it is a religion tradition all over the world to persecute other religions. Christians have done this for millennia and sometimes they are victims themselves. I think the solution is to stop with the craziness altogether.
It's amazing that these types of unexceptionally wrong perspectives, especially whimsical bio-truths, continually get posted on this forum.
But when Muslims persecute yazidis, it is because Mohammed did so, and Quran has verses allowing it.
To stop with the craziness, one should look at what motivates and incentivizes the craziness. And it turns out some religions are crazier than the others.