I am against making any drugs illegal but shit like this is why we can't have nice things.
I feel it undermines the logic based argument to legalize recreational drugs. As well, smoking costs 3x the tax revenue from society, coming from single payer, I don’t love paying for people picking up smoking / vaping since the dangers were known.
I've lost family and friends to both -- they were not "protected from themselves"
Lost my mother to alcohol, which is legal and kills 10s of thousands in the US each year.
I don't have an easy answer, but I do know that our current approach is wrong.
Your naturalistic fallacy aside, modern fruits ate not natural; they have been genetically engineered to be as sugary as possible.
He wasn't fruitarian. In his early years (20s) perhaps more so, but in the years before his cancer was discovered he was known to consume lots of vegan junk food and processed foods, oils and salt - his body was massively acidic. In the couple years before his death he ended up consuming a lot of dairy and excess protein - both killers and horrible to the human body.
So one semi-fruitarian dies, fruits are evil.
Millions of people die from diets that consist heavily of processed meat, soda, dairy, excess protein, processed sugar and other garbage - nothing to see here.
Having said that, as fruit also contain fiber and other things it would be hard to ingest an unhealthy amount if that was your primary source of sugar. It's also why all-natural fruit juices are as bad (or worse) for you as soft-drinks.
Weed: killed few people Opiates: killed many people
I’m saying 1) should be illegal and 2) should not
How you actually treat criminals however, totally for the Nordic model, not the USA model.
Perhaps the implication is that we need other solutions aside from making things illegal.
I agree with the government victimization but legal drugs implies purity and labeling requirements to allow choices to be better informed.
It doesn't matter how pure it is if you can buy enough to kill an elephant at they grocery store.
Not true at all. One could safely be a long-time heroin addict with a supply with guaranteed purity and strength. Not a recommended lifestyle, but it's true.
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/health/05iht-obese.1.9748...
If this is the case, then some flavors are dangerous, not vaping in itself.
Obviously vaping is preferable to smoking, but I have serious doubts that inhaling air isn't preferable to vaping.
Source? Are you sure it's not 5x or 10x? Because all of the evidence I've ever seen says smoking cost society less - smokers die sooner. [1]
[1] - https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/health/05iht-obese.1.9748...
Are the dangers of vaping known tho? Is there any study that shows it causes physical damage like inhaling smoke from a burning cigarette? Is seems fairly obvious to me that inhaling vegetable glycerin and nicotine does not cause any harm. The only "problem" is the nicotine addiction, but that one does not cause any physical harm, it just costs money to buy refills.
Why is that obvious? Lungs evolved to absorb oxygen not vegetable glycerin or propylene glycol. In fact there is some evidence that it may be harmful to protective cells in the lung walls, potentially increasing the risk of lung inflammation[1]. Obviously we'll have to wait 30 years to know of any long-term effects, but maybe common sense would be a better life decision if you don't want to be a test subject.
I would also suggest that there is a risk of cheap e-cigarettes causing even more serious harm because they might have contaminants in the fluid being inhaled.
Thank you I didn't know about this.
Unsurprisingly, even though e-cigarettes and friends haven’t been on the market for very long, the data already shows it’s harmful. It causes development issues in children, fertility problems in women, blood pressure and heart problems for everyone. And that’s what we know now.
It’s only less harmful if you compare it with smoking.