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Try to propose running your own chat server at any medium to large company. No VP of engineering or CTO wants to worry about that and the possible security risks. If Slack messes up they can blame Slack but if you mess up and expose some Healthcare data to the outside world because of your chat server they are screwed.

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I’ve seen exactly those reasons by those people in those size companies to explain why slack could not be allowed.

I've seen that too, but it's usually the same people who just reject anything hosted somewhere else with statements like "we're not doing airquotes The Cloud" and think all tech companies are conspiring against us.

No, it's because all of the big chat applications are hosted in the US and this is a completely unacceptable country to have any data in.

This is true. If you are in the EU you might not even legally be able to use a US hosted solution depending on what data you are sending over the chat...

I've had the opposite experience; at my last job (a medium sized tech company that you've heard of and probably use tangentially on a daily basis) they wouldn't hear of using anything cloud based because then someone else could potentially leak their data.

Interesting. Even something like AWS?

Is AWS not cloud-based any more?

Just curious how far they're extending this logic.

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