Show HN: A/Bingo for ASP.NET
fairtutor.com
fairtutor.com
It's essentially a simplified version of patio's A/Bingo, with one major departure in that participation data is stored in the users' browser rather than a local database. That helps it scale out better and means that you can pretty much just drop the code into your project and have it start working without having to configure anything.
Let me know what you think!
Seriously, FairTutor is a great looking site, would love a post on how you built it, found the tutors, etc.
FairTutor will get its own "Rate My Startup" post, and probably a few "Making of" entries on the Expat Software blog when I get closer to a public launch.
I've never been one to publicize my stuff when the front page is just collecting emails. Even though there's a full-blown website running beta classes back there, I'll wait until there's something you can actually see before asking people to take a look at it.
Assuming any success whatsoever when the site launches, I'll try to follow up with a Central America tour next year. It's only the responsible thing to do, and besides, the surfing is better.
That storing the participation data in the user's browser is a bit of a red herring for me. Would you please describe the tradeoffs between doing it that way, and doing it Patrick's way?
Also, there's no license. I potentially would like to contribute, but that's a show stopper. Any chance of giving it an MIT lic?
Feel free to shoot me an email at joshpearce[at]beechtreetech[dot]com
If you make changes, let me know and I'll see about rolling them back in.
I have few questions which are not explained much on your site: - you say it does not use database but stores result on the client? how does it work? can I loose the results when IIS is restarted etc. ? - any screenshot of your dashboard?
I know its probably not your main business so you dont want to waste lots of time on it but I think it is a great idea and you should make a business out of it. We currently pay $150 a month for VWO and its a fantastic tool but it limits us to test on certain websites which have lots of traffic as VWO and any other tool on the market charges per number of visitors tested. Your tool as its self-hosted solution wouldn't have these economics so you can charge few hundred dollars for a license with unlimited tests etc.
ab:ID=1212802769|Tests=header_caption,register_payment_message,account_instructions,setup_navigation|Conversions=header_caption
That way, we can simply ask the visitor whether he's participating in a given test, and we can know not to score him twice for anything. All that lives on the server is a file at the root called tests.ab holding a few k worth of participation and conversion tallies.Every time anything changes, it checks to see if it's saved its state in the last minute, and if not it simply serializes itself to XML and dumps that to disk. If it ever finds itself uninitialized (such as on a server reset), it attempts to load its last saved state. So long as you remember to ignore that tests.ab file as part of your deploy, it'll survive intact.
As to selling it, I'm all about bringing in the cash, but a hosted option wouldn't really work for this. First, it's architected specifically so there's hardly anything to host. Second, its big advantage over something like Visual Website Optimizer is that your pages don't hang while requesting resources from a 3rd party.
Don't worry. I've got other stuff bringing in revenue (like the site this is hosted on, for instance), but thanks for the suggestion!
Self-hosted solution - I probably didn't explain myself well I meant that its great it can be self-hosted rather than relying on 3rd party website like VWO.
As a compiled .dll you drop into your project, you could probably market it to decision makers and get them to force it on the devs, hoping that nobody every bothered to decompile it and realize it's only a few hundred lines of code.
I'm sure there's a business in the self-hosted AB space, but for the moment I'm not excited enough about it to pursue it.
Thanks for releasing this. I'll let you know how it goes. HN delivers again!
says "Using the <ab:Test> UserControl"
If it's the latter, read down to the next code sample, which shows how to call the library directly from an ASP.NET MVC View or anywhere else.
The UserControl is just there as a convenience.
http://www.bingocardcreator.com/abingo/resources
Basically, it's testing one version of your website against another version, so that you can measure which one better compels users to do something.
So, for example, you might try testing your normal "Buy Now" button against a double-sized, bright red shiny button. You'd show one version to half your visitors, the other version to the other half. Libraries like this one let you keep track of who saw which version, and whether they actually bought your thing.
After a week or so collecting data, you can see that, for example, 4.8% of visitors seeing your old button clicked it, whereas 6.6% of those who saw the big red one clicked it. That's valuable. As in, measurable in dollars valuable, so you need to be doing it if you run a website that sells things to people or otherwise gets value out of people doing stuff on it.