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Many of the reasons authors states are quite silly. Personally I don’t like the huge perf hits everywhere you look. For example, a bool in Python takes whopping 24 bytes! Multi threading is a giant mess due to GIL that apparently no one can get rid of. Things like true static variables are missing. Import behavior differences for programs and modules is baffling. Lambda is intentionally kept under powered (ex. no group by). Need to create new environments to avoid conflicting package versions can quickly become annoying (could have been improved by side by side versions).

Still, I don’t hate it at all. It’s good and beautiful for lot of other stuff.

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Now this is a good list of things to hate about Python. I would add the fracturing of build methods for large applications is another frustrating thing about working with python. Although projects like Pipenv and Poetry seem to be bringing python up to modern standards in that arena.

I have yet to use poetry although I’ve heard great things and I’ve read a blog post that kind of sold me into it. How would you say it ranks compared to pipenv? I’ve had frustrating issues with the latter in the past month.

I can’t help but think that the lack of Kenneth Ritz in the commit list since summer has something to do with this. I don’t recall the exact scenario, but I think there was some kind of falling out between him and the community.

I encourage you to expand on these excellent points in a blog post. It would be about 100x better than the OP.

FYI, True/False are singletons so really it's using 48 bytes in total for that.

Even if you despise python to the core, it's hard to shrug off the massive number of well documented, mature libraries. Usually there are 2 or more choices with at least one of them being fairly mature and maintained. Not to mention the wealth of examples showing how you can do something.

So despite all the things I dislike about python, it's still my go to for a proof of concept or getting something done quickly.

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