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>Saying they would "die on their sword" is wrong. Nobody would care if they said "we're waiting 6 months because we want time to debate".

Again, be realistic, and account for the context of the situation. The LNP, in cahoots with our corrupt media made this a "keep Aussies safe over Christmas" issue.

No one in Australia is strong enough to take on the Murdoch media cabal. If Labor opposed, and even a minor incident occurred over Christmas they would have jeopardized their chances of election. For what? An issue that the vast majority of Australians don't care about? Idiocy.

I'm as disappointed as any other punter, but I've been unable to convince any of the tech-illiterate in my social circle that it matters.

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>keep Aussies safe over Christmas

Which is even more disingenuous when you consider that the bill won't even take effect until March, and probably won't lead to any backdoors until significant time after that.

you're preaching to the choir here mate. It's corrupt though-and-through, but the Murdoch media controls the narrative in this country, and the vast majority of Australians a) don't care and b) only consider the "but what about ISIS on whats app" argument.

How do you win in this scenario?

Oh, I was intending to preach to the choir :) Just pointing out a little bit of extra hypocrisy that some might have missed.

Honestly, I don't know how we could possibly win in this scenario. A corrupt media stoking unfounded fears in an ignorant public is a very powerful thing.

ZDNet reports that the Aus Govt. can start issuing the notices in question as of now: https://www.zdnet.com/article/whats-actually-in-australias-e...

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You have said this one way or another a few times, but I just thought I would point out that "nobody cares about this but it will ruin their chances of election to oppose it", doesn't on the face of it make a whole lot of sense.

It's simple. Nobody, besides us nerds, cares about the details. Unfortunately it's extremely easy for those in the media to paint this as 'isis loving Labor allows terrorists to communicate secretly' and that gets every man and his dogs attention, because privacy and civil liberties is a thorny, complex issue, but terrorist bashing is easy low hanging fruit we can all agree on.... right?

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