Rumor: China's ethics board reviews 20 popular online games, bans 9
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I speculate it is more likely a way to carefully manipulate the competitive landscape for a highly-lucrative industry (gaming), so as to favor local companies (and yes, I see Tencent is impacted). This should really be brought up in the on-going trade negotiations.
Very curious because dota 2 is definitely violent and has some scantily clad women (not as far as LoL but I don't think censors really care about differences).
The reason this is curious is because China is Dota's largest audience and Valve has announced that TI9 will be held in Shanghai. Important to note that this is a huge tournament with the largest prize pool in all of esports (T8 was $25.5 Million).
Recently Valve banned a player from participating in a tournament in China for making racist remarks towards the Chinese in a public match and many believe that this is Valve bending to Chinese interests. [1] Valve has also recently announced that they will be releasing Steam China after years of working with Perfect World as a middle man[2] .
Valve has censored heroes and abilities to appease Chinese Censors and has been able to more or less keep it only on the Chinese Client. [3] (Rip Skeleton King)
Interesting times ahead with more and more games and films entering the Chinese market.
[1]https://www.foxsportsasia.com/esports/dota2/990684/valve-iss...
[2]https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/11/17451484/steam-china-anno...
> Fortnite by Epic Games/Tencent (Blood and gore, vulgar content.)
This has to be the most ridiculous reason, Fortnite banned for blood and gore? It's just a cartoon game.
Personally, I enjoy that kind of games, but the fact that they display smiling cartoon characters killing each others can make some people even more uncomfortable.
On steam, a game where you play a school shooter was recently banned. Can cartoon graphics and absence of blood make a school shooter acceptable?
This is really targeted at China's domestic game industry and various tendencies the Party disapproves of because they believe those games to "corrupt the youth" or something like that. The leadership is full of very conservative people for whom a chainmail bikini verges on pornography.
It was bullshit before too. This is nothing but another form of candlemaker's petition.[1] Why is welfare of corporations more important than free choice of consumers? Why not let consumers voluntarily decide where they want to take their business?
[1] https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/candle-makers-pe...
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09BEIJING3128_a.html
A choice quote:
Xi knows how very corrupt China is and is repulsed by the
all-encompassing commercialization of Chinese society,
with its attendant nouveau riche, official corruption,
loss of values, dignity, and self-respect, and such "moral
evils" as drugs and prostitution, the professor stated.
The professor speculated that if Xi were to become the
Party General Secretary, he would likely aggressively
attempt to address these evils, perhaps at the expense of
the new moneyed class.The reason hardly anyone knows the names of important party members after Deng Xiaoping and before Xi Jingping is that it was policy. Deng recognised the dangers of creating a cult of personality, such as he had witnessed (and suffered) under Mao.
Xi is quickly reversing this, presenting his person and ideas as central tenets of the party. It's a direction that should cause concern, since I think it's mainly Deng's policies that laid the groundwork for China's rise and current status on the world stage.
rows 1-12: 责令改正 "changes ordered".
rows 13-20: 暂不批准或者退市 "temporarily not approved or leave market".
For those who don't know, NGA was originally a forum about World of Warcraft (the online game). Then it got popular and became more generic , similar to the "wow" subforum on Baidu Tieba (Chinese equivalent of reddit, but earlier than reddit).
the only good thing trump has done is the china tariffs
You do realize the number of countries US has destabilized over the years is not an insignificant one?
And that the results have seldom been satisfactory to anyone but the particular companies that benefitted from the escapade?
What you are saying amounts to that the right of american companies to make a profit is more important than the political sovereignty, happiness and wellness of peoples living in countries which threat these profits.
it can easily become the cause of another world war,better their govt become destabilized than the whole world
Free trade is from some points of view an illusion. Markets are ruled by the most powerful up to a point. If a country wishes to boost its' industry, then state intervention to market forces is, when used keenly, a useful tool.
The fact that most industrial countries bootstrapped their development by happily ripping of patents and supporting their own industries through state intervention is often forgotten nowadays when discussing what is fair and what is not in global trade.
In the early 19th century US ripped their factory tech from the british. Etc.
See for example:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-industrial-esp...
Similar stories can be found from around the globe.
So, just to make this clear: you cannot really argument from a fairness point of view, but, you can of course argument from US centric point of view - which is totally fine, just as long as you understand you are not on a moral high ground, but just supporting a particular team in a game.
Still lots of great stuff happening there, so long as you're not an ethnic minority, religious, LGBT, disabled, an addict, mentally ill, interested in social change, or too poor to afford your own private oxygen and food supply
Persecuted? I mean, maybe there's social stigma. But I can start a local chapter of "<some_minority> support group" and no one is going to knock on my door and disappear me in the night. I can make a website that's entirely dedicated to criticizing my government, and my internet connection won't be blocked. I can jaywalk across the street without a CCTV camera auto-detecting my face, associating it with my Citizen Social Credit score, and then having it be broadcast on a massive digital billboard to shame me in front of thousands of people.
Okay, that started to drift from your original point a bit, my bad.
Absolutely true. But you WILL not be given access to venues to host events, and you will most certainly be labeled a "violent activist group" or (if you're from a particular religious group) be accused of "feeding the fire of terrorism". With all the negative consequences that come with that. (This is not science fiction by the way, it happened in a certain west european country not too long ago).
So yeah, I'm not sure it's a better deal.
I wasn't trying to start a flame war or anything. I just find the hate towards china very curious and very dangerous. What bothers me isn't necessarily the negative criticism it's rather the fact that we're accusing them of things the US and Europe have been guilty of for centuries, but you're right we're drifting away from the main topic of the article.
Thanks for replying.
I simply must call BS.
Are the Germans not qualified to give lessons on the subject of pervasive surveillance, or the concentration of thousands into camps on the basis of their religion? Are the Bosniaks not qualified to speak of ethnic cleansing, particularly as it applies to a Muslim population? Are the British, whose colonial empire committed many of the same crimes China seems intent on repeating, without any wisdom to offer on the subject?
Perhaps the recent density of criticism directed at China, in particular reports on the surveillance state and concentration camps in Xinjiang, are signs that something has gone very wrong.
If you believe in gravitational waves, the speed of light, and DNA, all things whose existence can only (for most) be directly observed and described by trusted experts, then trust the international press when they say something's going very wrong in Xinjiang.
[0] http://www.chinafile.com/reporting-opinion/postcard/million-... [1] https://asiasociety.org/video/tragedy-xinjiang-all-my-uighur... [2] https://medium.com/@shawnwzhang
I try to be as neutral as possible, but as an overseas Chinese, I can't help but tends to have a slight bias towards Chinese government.
I mean China state sponsors corporate espionage and supports copyright infringement like no other country in the world. It also has essentially a second internet because it so heavily censors its own. It also locks up millions of a cultural group into concentration camps. I just don’t see a lot of positive advancements in general and I’ve been there as well. This isn’t just from the news.
Sometimes things are reported overwhelmingly negative because they are, in fact, overwhelmingly negative. It’s not always a bias it’s just reality.
It's changed the mood from "they are acting reasonably effetively in their national interest" to "this guy could do anything".
PEGI is a pan-European (note: not solely UK - it’s an industry body) rating system. It doesn’t censor content or creativity, it just recommends that younger people can’t buy extreme content. It’s not active censorship.
Ofcom doesn’t apply to games - it’s TV, radio, phones, communications regulator (Office of Communications).
The ICO regulates data protection and privacy. In what way is this related to game and creativity censorship?
HMRC is tax collection. The only way this can affect game design is via tax breaks - these tax breaks are not predicated on specific creative requirements.
So - how is the UK in any way similar to China in terms of game censorship?
But as you seem to know something I don’t, please enlighten me - any examples of the UK government actually censoring games?
Games you are not allowed to know about would be sympathic to the cause of afghans, iranians, iraqis, syrians and many more things that sell newspapers and political elections.
The reason it seems to occur more often with China is because China is the rising power, and probably the power of the 21st century - its actions will be scrutinised because its actions have major consequences for the rest of the world.
I will happily 'bash' my (UK) government over a whole range of things. Censorship in creative industries is not one of them. China has a long history of creative suppression and censorship.
I would assume that games sympathetic to the causes of Afghans, Iranians, Iraqis, Syrians, and others are not 'banned' or creatively stifled, just that there is no commercial interest or reward in such games. This is not censorship by a government. There's nothing stopping anybody making games on such subjects.
That's the difference between China (and other similar governments) and, for lack of a better category, western governments. China's government will intervene in creative processes, western governments will not.
That has nothing to do with what we're talking about - government interference in creative industries.
It seems you just have an axe to grind.