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Nice pics, but the side view is telling: not nearly as thin as it appeared. One almost wonders if the designers designed it around the marketing pictures. Which in and of itself is a huge red flag. Maybe competitive with a 2012 MacBook Pro, maybe? But injection molded plastic and Windows. No thanks.

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Calling Nano Carbon with Magnesium "injection molded plastic" is incredibly dishonest.

HN: The MacBook keyboards are terrible! Why doesn't Apple go back to the slightly-thicker 2015 design and keep the ports and keyboards the way they were?

Also HN: Any keyboard thicker than a MacBook air is pure crap.

Umm, what? I think the laptop is thin enough and the trackpad is large enough. They have managed to get a 17" laptop to the same weight as a 13" MacBook Pro, which is a huge achievement.

I know it might sound like a wild concept, but let's consider. Is it possible that there are multiple people, who have different opinions, even though they are expressing them on the same forum?

This laptop is 0.7 inches thick, while the latest Macbook air is 0.61 inches thick.

It's just 13% thicker. It's also 6% heavier, and has a much larger screen.

But the keyboard does not look good. And the effect of weight is not linear

I am much more interested in the Microsoft Go.

Surface go is okay, don’t expect to really do much and you’ll need to buy an upgrade key to pro if you want to even attempt to run docker and such. But it’s great for travel.

The Surface Go is 10" and this is 17". They are completely different markets, and one costs $1700 vs $400. I doubt that many people are considering both at the same time.

What are your requirements, that you're considering either this or a Go?

Very light, good keyboard, to be used daily for SSH.

The size is not really a factor, even if larger keyboard are usually more comfortable.

The best keyboard I ever found was on a small Thinkpad many years ago.

Since it appears that cost is not a concern, I'd recommend a ThinkPad X1 Carbon

Yeah, looked great until I saw the side [0]. Would be great if it had a larger trackpad, too. If it's actually plastic, that's a complete deal-breaker.

[0] https://images.anandtech.com/doci/13681/lg-gram-17-io.jpg

It's thin enough

The article states it comes in a dark silver Carbon Magnesium alloy chassis.

How much thinner could you make it without sacrificing the ports?

Perhaps GP refers to the looks rather than thinness.

Yep, the aesthetics appear a bit dated and it looks like there are plenty of gaps for dust, dirt, etc to collect. For the price tag, the specs are fine, but the chassis is terrible. I'd much rather buy something like a Razer Blade 17" if I required something that packed a punch and looked great.

Looking at the Macbook in front of me & back to this laptop on my screen & the trackpad looks absolutely tiny. Large trackpads are good! Seems odd that it's so small.

I've used good and bad trackpads/keyboards/etc. over they years. No matter how good or bad they are, you always find a way to get used to them.

I wonder if its not the relative size that's throwing you off. Bigger keyboard = smaller-looking trackpad.

The MacBook Pro 2016+ shows that bigger isn't necessarily better when it comes to input devices.

Yeah, it's probably a function of it being a larger laptop. & it's, of course, subjective. I saw this typing on my 2016 MacBook Pro, & I personally love the giant trackpad.

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