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Comment by gregmac | Hacker News Reader

Quick summary (if you don't know the name "Dragonfly", like I didn't):

> We are Google employees and we join Amnesty International in calling on Google to cancel project Dragonfly, Google’s effort to create a censored search engine for the Chinese market that enables state surveillance.

> Our opposition to Dragonfly is not about China: we object to technologies that aid the powerful in oppressing the vulnerable, wherever they may be.

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> we object to technologies that aid the powerful in oppressing the vulnerable, wherever they may be.

And where's the actual research showing that Google in China would do such a thing? By all calculations, it would bring more knowledge and access to Chinese citizen that they already have.

This make it sound like Google is the reason why the citizen don't have access to information.

By building and delivering such a system they'd be condoning the actions of the Chinese government.

I don't understand the outrage about censorship particularly with respect to the Chinese government.

Google has agreed to remove plenty of stuff from the search engine that many Europeans see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_by_Google

Sounds like double standards to me.

No? You're projecting your western values. They're not condoning anything, they are following local laws. And while Search will be crippled, they are still bringing dozens of other great and useful service to Chinese citizens. Almost any actual Chinese citizen I've spoken to would absolutely love to have Google back. Instead, Westerns are just outraged in their place and are trying to virtue signal.

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