Chess Is the Killer App
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I'm somewhat surprised that chess still has a "men's" and "women's" division. Isn't that anachronistic for a "sport" that has virtually no physical component at all? I don't really understand the ELO system by which players are compared, but I believe that one's score is in relation to the competition they have previously faced. Are top females' lower scores not simply self-perpetuated due to not playing the top males?
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The top women are far worse than the top men (the top two are currently ranked #99 and #350). Discussing why is a sensitive matter: depending on which studies you believe it's either because women are naturally different from men or because the patriarchy keeps them down.
Yes there are other factors such as the massively overburdened 'lack of role model' explanation, but these are better explained as positive feedback from an already unequal situation (and in any case does it matter so much if you can have separate men and women sides to the sport?).
The world is a very confusing and complicated place if you don't accept clear evidence however inconvenient!
I thought that was implied.
Have you ever considered how you would test to develop evidence of whether or not that assumption is accurate?
So that leaves us with the more controversial answers. I havent done any research, so I couldnt tell you which it is, bias or genetics. If I had to guess, I would say genetics. I mean, its a game about spatial patterns.
But I dont know why people still consider chess to be a good measure of general intelligence. Its not. The newest bot learned how to be better than our centuries of chess knowledge in about 30 mins, but the robot isnt at all intelligent in any general sense.
Abstract
Women remain significantly underrepresented in the science, engineering, and technology workforce. Some have argued that spatial ability differences, which represent the most persistent gender differences in the cognitive literature, are partly responsible for this gap. The underlying forces at work shaping the observed spatial ability differences revolve naturally around the relative roles of nature and nurture. Although these forces remain among the most hotly debated in all of the sciences, the evidence for nurture is tenuous, because it is difficult to compare gender differences among biologically similar groups with distinct nurture. In this study, we use a large-scale incentivized experiment with nearly 1,300 participants to show that the gender gap in spatial abilities, measured by time to solve a puzzle, disappears when we move from a patrilineal society to an adjoining matrilineal society. We also show that about one-third of the effect can be explained by differences in education. Given that none of our participants have experience with puzzle solving and that villagers from both societies have the same means of subsistence and shared genetic background, we argue that these results show the role of nurture in the gender gap in cognitive abilities.
Conclusion
Our paper shows that the gender gap in spatial abilities in the task that we study interacts with culture. In the matrilineal society, we observe no gender difference in this task. These results show that nurture plays an important role in the gender gap in spatial abilities. Our results also indicate that providing equal education and improving treatment of women at the family level may make a difference; however, this implication should be taken with a grain of salt, because causality cannot be ascertained. Nevertheless, the implications for both policymakers and ordinary people interested in reducing the gender gap cannot be overstated: reducing the gender gap in spatial abilities may reduce the gender gap in the science, engineering, and technology workforce. It is worth mentioning that our results do not provide evidence against the role of nature.
That's not necessarily a valid counterargument. Humans and bots may play similarly to some extent (both technically do ranking&searching through space of possible moves, aided by many heuristics), but for humans it's about using the same "mental pathways" that are required by other tasks in life. Bots are just playing chess.
It's like benchmarking a CPU vs. an ASIC. ASIC will be better for the task it's designed for, but absolutely useless for everything else.
What do "spatial patterns" have to do with genetics, in this context?
Anyway, judging from your comment you probably haven't heard of Judit Polgár:
Judit Polgár (born 23 July 1976) is a Hungarian chess grandmaster. She is generally considered the strongest female chess player of all time.[1] In 1991, Polgár achieved the title of Grandmaster at the age of 15 years and 4 months, at the time the youngest to have done so, breaking the record previously held by former World Champion Bobby Fischer.
Polgár was born on 23 July 1976 in Budapest, to a Hungarian Jewish family.[10] Polgár and her two older sisters, Grandmaster Susan and International Master Sofia, were part of an educational experiment carried out by their father László Polgár, in an attempt to prove that children could make exceptional achievements if trained in a specialist subject from a very early age.[11] "Geniuses are made, not born," was László's thesis. He and his wife Klára educated their three daughters at home, with chess as the specialist subject.[12] László also taught his three daughters the international language Esperanto. They received resistance from Hungarian authorities as home-schooling was not a "socialist" approach. They also received criticism at the time from some western commentators for depriving the sisters of a normal childhood.
Traditionally, chess had been a male-dominated activity, and women were often seen as weaker players, thus advancing the idea of a Women's World Champion.[13] However, from the beginning, László was against the idea that his daughters had to participate in female-only events. "Women are able to achieve results similar, in fields of intellectual activities, to that of men," he wrote. "Chess is a form of intellectual activity, so this applies to chess. Accordingly, we reject any kind of discrimination in this respect."[14] This put the Polgárs in conflict with the Hungarian Chess Federation of the day, whose policy was for women to play in women-only tournaments. Polgár's older sister, Susan, first fought the bureaucracy by playing in men's tournaments and refusing to play in women's tournaments. Susan Polgár, when she was a 15-year-old International Master, said in 1985 that it was due to this conflict that she had not been awarded the Grandmaster title despite having made the norm eleven times.[15]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judit_Polg%C3%A1r
So, of three women that were purposefully trained from an early age to play chess, two became grandmasters and the other an International Master. Either genetics has nothing to do with it, or the Polgárs are a very special family, genetically speaking. Which is the most likely?
My comment was solely based off of the metastudies you see around spatial reasoning. Since I’m not very aware of the details (e.g. cultural effects), I stressed that it was a guess.
And one "solution" to this is to make a women only tournament.
But as your comment shows, even this is viewed in a negative light.
So one type of study invokes "nature", the other speaks from the point of view of feminism.
Neither sounds like a very unbiased kind of study. Shall we just say we have no idea and leave it at that, until the scientists decide to take a look into the issue?
https://www.youtube.com/user/ChessNetwork
There's also a series beginner to master covering the basic topics of chess.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQsLDm9Rq9bHKEBnElquF...
Daniel King (PowerPlayChess) is a Grand Master who does commentary on most major chess events. His explanations are deep, interesting, and colored with historical background:
https://youtube.com/user/PowerPlayChess
And if you want your mind blown, watch Andrew Tang (penguingm1) play blindfold 15 second games:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6ygQMw4rBHg
Sorry for sending you down those rabbit holes!
For education I recommend John Bartholomew
Other worthwhile YouTubers are Eric Rosen, and the GingerGM.
I love the pacing, the strategy, the conversations, the intellectual nature of it.
I think most of the games that are possible (ie games in game space) in chess are draws but this is just my sense of it.
You may find Gwern's comments on Advanced chess interesting: https://www.gwern.net/Notes#advanced-chess-obituary
I also found it fun to play.