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I think the other two "mainstream" messengers I use (Telegram, KakaoTalk) are as simple or simpler and also ad-free. Kakao also has E2E encryption after a bit of a struggle, Telegram had it for a long time.

I think WA is the most widespread but I wouldn't call it the simplest or most reliable. They are all pretty similar imo

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As opposed to the two you mentioned, WhatsApp has e2e by default. Kakaotalk and Telegram force you to use "secret chats" for that which are device to device only and cannot be shared among different devices with the same account.

Uh, well, both WhatsApp and Signal are single device only to begin with.

I can continue an encrypted chat in Signal from my desktop. I don't think I can do that in Telegram.

Do you need a password to do that?

Nope, scan a QR code

Telegram's security is catastrophic, it's a wonder why anybody still uses it. I'm not sure if Kakao even has end-to-end encryption.

Telegram secret chats don't sync across devices and aren't supported in the official desktop client, which makes them pretty much useless.

There's two official desktop clients. One called "Telegram" and the other called "Telegram Desktop". Both are regularly updated etc.

The regular "Telegram" has secret chat. It is tied to device, but you can do desktop -> phone or desktop -> desktop or phone -> desktop specifically, but that depends on a bit of coordination.. but yeah definitely not synced between each combination

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