The Rebel Real: an attempt to design a new mouse

Hi, my name is Qeric Koten, and I've been working on the RBT - Right 'Bove Touch design over the past 5 years. The RBT design has provoked many reactions in the gaming peripherals community, mostly from loyal fans of other brands, mostly negative. Yet, like Michael Jackson once said: " If I think you're wrong, then I must prove I'm right." I believe I have created a product unique enough to solve nearly all the problems that the traditional mouse design had bred. So to clarify, the only thing RBT isn't designed to do: is for those who need to use the PC while standing up: retail associates, for instance, who need to be standing and greet customers all day wouldn't in vast circumstances be needing to use the rabbit. (I'm assuming the worker is always standing up during work shift) The rabbit (RBT Rebel Real) is designed for those of us who spend many hours a day sitting in front of a computer, and feeling miserable discomforts caused by a conventional mouse. I've gone through many obstacles to have the RBT Rebel Real 1.112 manufactured, and now it's up to you guys to decide whether or not to attempt your future a bit differently.

This mouse is fugly, but I’m very happy it exists and will probably pick one up soon.

Why? The more types of mice available, the better it is for all of us, truly. If you’re somebody who spends a decent amount of time in front of a computer, you should be trying a lot of different mice over time. Chances are the mice you have is not the best for you.

It’s so cheap to do this, anyway. Such a small investment to keep your hands working into the foreseeable future.

Over 8 years ago I suddenly developed intense pain in my finger when clicking a mouse button, after years of using them just fine. Typing is fine. Just index-finger "clicking".

I have not really used a mouse since. I switched entirely to a combination of TrackPoint and Magic Trackpad. But it still hurts to this day to make that movement, even in the air.

Most vertical and ergonomic mice do not help, as despite benefits such as vertical grips they continue to use mostly standard index and middle finger movements for the clicking. I'd need something such as thumb-based buttons.

This mouse looks interesting as it appears to change the clicking movement itself. I'd love to be able to play an FPS again...

I miss the shape that Logitech incorporated into several models years ago: MX518, G400, and G500. It seems to accomplish much of what this mouse is trying to do, distribute the click along the entire finger and support the thumb. I still use my MX518 at work and my hand just naturally wraps around it like a glove. It makes full contact with my entire hand, every finger rests naturally in contact with the mouse and the only thing touching the mousepad is the base of my palm. Unfortunately Logitech seems to be focusing on looks and gizmos these days instead of solid products, they seem to have no interest in making another mouse in this shape...

If it was $20, I'd give it a shot. At $88, I can't justify it unless I already know it's better or someone in my network has already used it and loves it.

I've been looking for something new in the mouse world, so this is fairly exciting. My real beef that I see just from looking at photos, is that the buttons are glossy. Why would they choose that over a matte finish, especially for gaming where you want precision. Glossy just attracts moisture from your fingers.

Seems like the place to post my RSI-related story.

I've been using the Logitech MX Anywhere [0] for a while. RSI was fine, I didn't really think about it. Just a handy little mouse, no big deal.

Then it broke, the left-click just wore out. So I thought I'd "upgrade" to the MX Master [1]. Mistake!

I realised that the smaller – and therefore significantly lighter – mouse was allowing me to use the tips of my fingers to push it round the table, rather than using my entire arm – hinged at the shoulder – to do the same. It's like I'm making it dance around by tapping it in tiny little movements rather than pushing it with one big movement to where it needs to be. It's hard to explain. Either way, that made an enormous difference.

With the MX Master, there was much more arm movement. I was in agony within half a day. When I figured out what it was, I switched it back out for the MX Anywhere. Now I'm happy again.

It seems counter-intuitive, but for me it works. I don't have very large hands, so that may be a factor.

[0]: https://www.logitech.com/en-gb/product/mx-anywhere-2s-flow [1]: https://www.logitech.com/en-gb/product/mx-master-2s-flow

Why is it shaped symmetrically, but has thumb buttons only on the left side?

> According to the QuadraClicks crew, this should eliminate RSI related to mouse usage

Isn't mouse related RSI caused by twisting the hand to the horizontal position? (Which this mouse doesn't prevent) Or are there multiple RSI causing issues?

I've had some success with a cheapo ergonomic mouse that doesn't require you to twist your wrist so your palm is face down. The more expensive options were often right-handed only. It didn't work on a bare tabletop as your hand and pinky tends to stick and drag on such a surface, but after buying a massive gaming style mouse mat, I was able to use it ("Ergonomic Mouse Left Hand, Jelly Comb")

Is any part of it adjustable? It seems like "ergonomic" gear is rarely adjustable to fit the user, which I find perplexing.

I developed a strange twitching of my index finger recently and switched to a vertical mouse. Twitching went away almost immediately, and although my vertical mouse is bulky and ugly, using them feels really natural and for my workplace I will not switch back. Pricing starts at 15€, so that's not hurdle, either.

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when I read this the first 2.5x, I thought this would be about genetic engineering. but that story would come from another source than overclockers.com... what interesting times we live in..

I haven’t used a mouse in over 6 years. My main driver is usually a laptop and even when I’m tethered to a desk with multiple monitors I opt for a trackpad (like Apple’s Magic Trackpad). Mice are dead to me.