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40% of my friends go to gym.

Out of them:

90% of my male friends go to gym to build aesthetic bodies, it helps them attract females.

Out of them:

97% of them take whey protein, fish oil, vitamin D, creatine, withania smonifera

70% of them take anabolic steroids.

30% still end up with escorts and hookers.

That said these are my Dutch friends in Amsterdam.

So i would say very few actually go to gym for longetivity.

Particular my male friends, smoke and do drugs, they all say they wanna live a short but exciting life where they get everything they want, let it be money or girls.

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You hang out with a very particular crowd if 90% of your friends go to the gym, especially if 70% also take steroids.

I think op said 40% of their friends go to the gym.

Looks like that was added later.

Steroids are way more common than you think. At they very least half of the men in any gym have taken steroids at some point.

Ummm, I don't want to say that reading is fundamental (even though it is), but, of the 36% of his acquaintances that go to the gym for that reason, about just over 25% (of his 'crowd' in aggregate, not of the 36%) take steroids. That's certainly a lot more than my friends ('crowd') do (as far as a know), but it's not as out of whack as you suggest.

If 1 out of 4 of your fiends are on steroids just for the gym, that’s pretty crazy to me

Me too.

Most of my friends don't go to the gym - they drink. Maybe I hang out with the wrong crowd.

The parent comment was edited and a bunch of numbers changed, but actually not enough to invalidate my comment; the numbers would still only apply to very particular subgroups.

Edit: Also no need to be a jerk about “reading comprehension” even if the comment hadn’t been edited to mismatch my reply. That’s the first rule in the HN guidelines.

Comment was edited but the numbers weren't changed.

I simply edited my comment to clarify how many of my friend actually go to gym.

And I added, "out of them" to clarify that further distribution is sub distribution of the distribution above it.

Just out of interest - why is choot's comment being down voted?

Because it's anecdotal?

Anyway - here's an upvote, as I don't see anything wrong with it.

It would be nice if people would reply with why they downvote a comment.

Maybe because the numbers are internally inconsistent and therefore not truthful?

<<40% of my friends go to gym. Out of them:

90% of my male friends go to gym to build aesthetic bodies, it helps them attract females.

Out of them:

97% of them take whey protein, fish oil, vitamin D, creatine, withania smonifera

70% of them take anabolic steroids.

30% still end up with escorts and hookers.>>

What is inconsistent here? Apart from the fact we don't know how truthful his friends are, the numbers don't seem out of whack.

That's interesting since a lot of other places look to the Netherlands for examples how to to build places conducive to an active lifestyle. There's a perception that places you can walk and cycle safely will see lower incidences of obesity, etc.

Of course, cycling to work probably won't get you ripped, but it can be helpful for getting some exercise without needing to set time aside for it.

Before that i lived in LA, even there usage was same if not more.

Interesting. How many weight-lifters in general take steroids? I use creatine, the occasional whey shake. Progress is slow :(

I only take whey and creatine.

My 23andme report says that I've disproportionately high amount of fast twitch muscle fiber.

And I am gaining muscle faster than my friends, sometimes even faster than the ones who take steroids.

I am not cacassian. 20% North European, 30% South East Asian, 20% Siberian, 30% Arab.

You might find this useful: https://www.t-nation.com/training/truth-about-bodybuilding-g...

"Gaining muscle faster" depends a lot on how much muscle you already have.

Lots. But you don't need to. You just need to push yourself hard and eat loads. If you're having fun in the gym then you won't make it. It's hard work.

But it has also to do with genetics.

If we've only 1-2 hours to train daily, then some of might not be able to achieve the results we are seeking due to lack of gene expression. We aren't fulltime bodybuilders and have demanding job at a tech company

In that case, if you still want the results, you'll have to resort to rHGH, testosterone and anabolic steroid.

You will find that (depending on gym) a surprisingly large portion do take steroids or have tried them at stages, for that very reason you said. Progress is slow!!!

And people wonder how movie stars can put on so much bulk for film roles so quick... Hmmmm I'll leave that up to the reader to interpret.

Progress does slow down, but early on gains are usually pretty fast assuming you are eating enough.

>Particular my male friends, smoke and do drugs, they all say they wanna live a short but exciting life where they get everything they want, let it be money or girls.

Sounds like they are all < 40 too. Let's see what they want when they get to 40, 50 and such.

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