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If WPF is coming in .NET Core, does this mean we are going to be able to run WPF apps on Linux and Mac?

Nope, it will be a windows only capability.

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I should add that the purpose of them adding this capability isn't to set up a new cross-platform UI suite. It is just to lure enterprise shops to .NET core by supporting more of their .NET Framework workloads

I'm still wondering whether it would be smart for them to port WPF or UWP to all platforms. They are already decoupling their services from Windows and a UI library would be quite a flagship for them.

Then again they'd also lose the Windows vendor lock-in, which might still be more valuable to them.

Then again they could sell their development toolchain and gain developer sympathy.

Well, I think it is an engineering problem. WPF is basically cemented to DirectX which only exists on Windows.

There will be a desktop pack that extends Core with windows desktop application technologies. Bear in mind these are really .NET API wrappers round the underlying Windows systems, so since those underlying libraries and such don’t exist on Mac or Linux .NET APIs won’t have anything to provide access to.

Think if it this way. Someone could write a .NET Core wrapper round the MacOS GUI libraries and platform APIs, but you couldn’t run that on Windows.

I highly doubt it. As far as I know WPF is way too entangled with Windows.

But isn't .Net Core meant to be cross-platform?

It is. The WPF library is just a separate package that includes a lot of Windows API calls to allow .NET Core to talk to WPF.

In general, yes, but a lot of its cross-platform capabilities are community-contributed/community-led, there are still some APIs that don't have cross-platform implementations (because it hasn't been a community priority), but also there are APIs that simply can't work on any platform but Windows (obvious things like Registry access, for instance) and will either no-op or throw clear exceptions on other platforms.

The "desktop app packs" for WPF and WinForms Microsoft has made very clear that they will not support anything other than Windows. (They also won't directly be a part of .NET Core according to diagrams, but packages installed on top of it.) It's also unclear if they can be open sourced (they probably cannot be), and if they can't be open sourced it is unlikely a community-led effort could easily work on making them cross-platform.

> The "desktop app packs" for WPF and WinForms

WinForms work quite nice on Linux with Mono. Won't they cooperate?

I think Mono Winforms is a total rewrite of the Windows Winforms. There is no shared code.

Sure it is but why not use that code to let .Net Core support WinForms on Linux the way it is going to support it on Windows?

I think you have that a little backwards. This is not up to the Core developers but to the Mono developers. There is nothing preventing the Mono developers from supporting .Net Core.

Aren't these the .Net Core developers who sort of import (or re-implement?) WinForms support from the classic .Net Framework on Windows?

It's shared with WINE I believe. (The native parts)

Wine uses its own Mono instance and I usually run WinForms apps directly with the system Mono set-up without using Wine (although I have both installed).

They might not port Mono's WinForms to .NET Core? Given how strictly tied to Windows WinForms is, they may not want to give enterprises they are encouraging to use .NET Core any confusion on the subject. Taking that extra step of trying to run the application on Mono shows at least some awareness of possible compatibility issues in the software.

That said, this may still be a great opportunity for .NET Core to encourage trying Mono in its documentation for enterprises looking for cross-platform support. (Hopefully they already knew about Mono by this point, but an extra push won't hurt.

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