Wired Interviews Bill Gates (1996) [video]
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Think for example about a one person business like daringfireball.net, that was the type of business Gates was envisioning. Or Drudge report.
They're very close to that. And the same is true to other content, e.g. Spotify, Amazon Kiddle, Netflix for films, YouTube for video, etc.
People still go to other sources, but increasingly less so, and those sources all increasingly fringe (Daring Fireball? Compared to Facebook and the like?). Nothing like the wild west (and much freer and distributed) market it was 10 and 20 years ago.
Between the 3-4 big social aggregators for example, there goes 80% of the internet advertising pie.
Gates (as quoted below): "There will be no content club in my life time with $4 billion revenue...you are on drugs if you think that".
Meanwhile there are like 5 "content clubs" with much higher revenue...
[1] https://qz.com/333313/milliions-of-facebook-users-have-no-id...
> Meanwhile there are like 5 "content clubs" with much higher revenue...
Good CEOs and Chairpersons don't blather about things that can adversely affect their company. Do you recall what happened after Musk tweeted that funding was secured?
No, case in point, DDG is generating more traffic than ever. You can also see Facebook losing ground with teenagers and young adults.
There's assault on all sides to decentralize the web as well. And Facebook is not the only social network, you can use Reddit to interact with your communities of interest and live completely off Facebook so your point does not really stand.
Kindle is not a monopoly either. You have Kobo and several other e-readers with attached stores available on the market, and you can buy e-pubs on numerous sites that are not Amazon.
Netflix also has to compete with Amazon Video and Apple services, they don't operate in a vacuum. And nothing prevents you from renting/buying physical media as well, even though it's not fashionable anymore.
Youtube is the closest thing that looks like a monopoly for video sharing- granted. There are alternatives but they tend to be weak in comparison (at least at this stage).
I don't think many people in your family know the site.
They are entrenched and are not expanding their services, instead, they are digging in and keeping their foothold within their regions, limiting/eliminating competition, both from a rules/laws (like preventing municipal ISPs from forming) and limiting their service footprint to maximize their "profits" within their regions. Next expanding, but always increasing the amount they charge to poor service and access to the "internet."
If anything, it appears that ISP behavior is similar to the original Ma-Bell (USA) telephone Corp. It looks like somebody needs to break them up. But that's wishful thinking this day & age, just like having a nation wide (USA) fiber deploy to all states, cities and towns. Imagine, a Renaissance would develop.
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I think your comment is only valid for a particular place in the world. In other countries you have wild competition between land providers and also mobile internet providers that keep offers priced low and more and more competitive as they go. If you want to benefit from competition, you need to ensure the regulators fight against local monopolies, or force them to license their lines.
That shocked me.
Costa Rica is below #100. About 1/5 to 1/6 the average speeds in the US, with US speeds increasing faster year-over-year despite the difference. Costa Rica is comparable to what you see in Iran or Nigeria, around four to five mbps.
Your premise comes across as dramatically overstated (even if you did encounter a coffee shop in LA with poor Internet).
Or, my only non-satellite option in rural Colorado.
I've worked at almost every coffee shop on the West Side of Los Angeles, Santa Monica, Culver, Venice.
With the exception of Starbucks who has some sort of deal worked out with Google the average connection speed is 5Mbs - 10Mbs.
[0] https://twitter.com/codinghorror/status/1056426165274009600
Vodafone in Egypt blocks Skype because it has its own voip app. That's what I'm remembering when I hear of ‘net neutrality‘—not even arbitrary blocking of torrent sites in various countries.
It appears to be Denise Caruso: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denise_Caruso
She has the byline on the cover of the June 1996 Wired story on Gates. I couldn't find the text of the story, but you can see the cover here: https://media.wired.com/photos/5bbbd018b1d78f2d74578369/mast... (shirtless Gates in a pool and called out as a "Gatesfold"...strange)
Edit: This is the article: https://www.wired.com/1996/06/microsoft-6/
Also the YouTube video itself was just uploaded a couple of weeks ago.
> I don't think we ever did anything with the interview. I had completely forgotten I had video'ed it.
Many few pages have high view count. If you expect that good content has only high view count you are missing what Internet is.
Microsoft sales 1995: $6.1 billion ($10b today)
Google is about 12x larger. AWS by itself is about 3x larger. Facebook is 5x larger. Salesforce is similar in size. Oracle is 4x larger. SAP is 2x larger. VMWare is closing in on 1x that size, as is Adobe. And Microsoft today is 12x larger.
If people back then understood how large technology companies would become today, I wonder what would be different (if anything).
Back then there was nobody else. We've gone from a monopoly to an oligopoly (ish) which in some ways feels less scary.
It's hard to overestimate Microsoft dominance in the 90s. If there was a wiff of them entering a category, the players in that space would be in trouble (similar to Amazon today, though Microsoft followed through more in decimating their rivals).
Yes, I recall those days intimately. It was hysteria and laughable even then. Breathless magazine articles claiming Microsoft was going to dominate everything, set up toll roads on the Internet, dominate e-commerce, publishing, media, and so on. None of it was even remotely feasible or credible.
The fear that briefly surrounded Microsoft's reign was almost entirely baseless hysteria. Its preeminence and monopoly abuse era lasted for six or seven years. Facebook has been abusing US consumers with its social monopoly for longer than that already, as has Google with its search monopoly (they're at least a decade plus in now). Both Facebook and Google are not only drastically more powerful and wealthy (greater financial resources by at least a factor of 10) than Microsoft in 1995-96, their reach is far beyond anything Microsoft had at that time. World-wide PC sales in 1995 were a whopping 70 million.
Google and Facebook touch nearly all corners of the globe, in real-time, at all times. Billions upon billions of people. Microsoft's reach in 1995-96? Extremely slow in nature, and less than ~150 million people globally.
Ability to throw or bias elections and control global commerce? Microsoft had almost none of that type of power with their operating system, or IE. Extraordinary amounts of commercial activity and referral flow directly through Google and Facebook products/platforms each day. Google's algorithm changes have dramatic effects on businesses. Android is a far larger gatekeeper and toll road than Microsoft could have dreamed of in 1995. YouTube by itself is roughly worth as much as all of Microsoft was in March 1995 (and has dramatically greater influence and reach, along with a monopoly position in what it does), Instagram is worth even more.
And Netscape, Microsoft's most famous 'victim'? (although not the thing that really got them in anti-trust trouble) The notion of building a large business around charging for a consumer browser was a dead-end. Nothing that Chrome or any other free browser wouldn't have put an end to later. Netscape was always going to die, short of pulling off a magic in-flight engine change to enterprise software (which they tried and failed at).
There's no chance Microsoft killed off more competitors in those days than Amazon has. How many small and mid size retailers has Amazon put under as it has added $100+ billion to its retail sales? Given the very low consumer & economic growth of the past decade, the tally would have to be thousands of businesses across the US. There are radically more retail stores of all sizes across the US than software companies. It's impossible for Microsoft to ever compete with the business rival destruction that Amazon must inherently cause as it grows ever larger. How many physical stores will Amazon destroy as it adds its next $100 billion in retail sales? It's not detracting from Walmart's sales, that's not shrinking, so it's coming from everybody else.
This was right around the time that Microsoft’s monopoly power was under intense scrutiny.
In that environment, it makes sense for BG to push back against the notion that they could use their desktop OS market share into some kind of content market share.
If you notice he gets particularly vehement whenever someone asks if they can use their control of the OS (or tools or the browser) into control of the content.
He emphasizes that the distribution platform has to be neutral.
Netflix revenue last year was $11.6 billion.
Fascinating interview.
Interesting to note, Microsoft bought Hotmail for $400 million the following year.
What a great video! It's fascinating to see the perspectives on the media, content, advertising, etc, in contrast to our current ad-driven world.
Certainly not any sort of athlete, but doesn't look unusually overweight or unhealthy.
- As of May 2018, Apple Music had 50 million paying subscribers worldwide. https://www.statista.com/statistics/604959/number-of-apple-m...
- Apple Hits $10B in Revenue From Services Like iTunes https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/apple-hits-10-billion...
Apple Music, et al. license content and there are few companies that are able to do this. This creates a barrier to entry that wasn't present for the "content clubs" Gates discusses. In fact, his primary point is that due to the lack of a barrier to entry in the market and no accumulating advantage of any kind, there wouldn't be a single dominant player.
> Apple Music, et al. license content and there are few companies that are able to do this. This creates a barrier to entry that wasn't present for the "content clubs" Gates discusses.
That's not true, because Apple licensing anything is still not a barrier to entry into that market even today. Also, such licensing wasn't available to anybody back then.
> In fact, his primary point is that due to the lack of a barrier to entry in the market and no accumulating advantage of any kind, there wouldn't be a single dominant player.
No, that was another point he made. The fragmentation of the market and he was certainly right on that one.
However, that was still not the point he mad I was talking about, the total size of the market.
Also notice, I didn't inter
Well, we have at best 2-3 "dominant players" in each field, so not much better. And doesn't already Kindle dominate in eBooks? Surely iBooks is not that much of competition.
I don't know if MSNBC was profitable at that time, but many such businesses were (and still are.)
The question was about the overall size of the industry.
And to me it seems he was spot on. The whole world and industry had to change before anyone could achieve that.
Your own links tell how much the growth has been in recent years. The interview was in 1996.
What he didn't foresee was that the world would change in a way that makes a +4$ billion "content club" business viable.
The journalists don't put their cards on the table. Were they pressing him so much because they thought a +4$ billion "content club" was possible? This is not clear from the video.
If they thought so, was this out of naiveté or foresight? Of course I can't tell, but back then Wired was much better than today, to say the least.