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why should Oracle do that? Do you know any bank or company that runs Oracle on Macs??????? I don't see any reason for Oracle to maintain java on this platform. We understand that oracle only moves its butt, if moving the butt makes cash. Does anybody know whether they make cash out of java on Macs?

Even if Oracle would provide java, would anybody put so much trust into Oracle, to base the future of his/her software company onto this? Apple again has proven to be unreliable.

I think, this is a serious blow either for java or for Apple itself. Probably we may have to fall back to c, fortran or delphi?

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Do you know any bank or company that runs Oracle on Macs

No, but I do know a lot of developers that write Java code that runs on banking infrastructure, that do.

it does sound more likely that a java dev on a mac gets a windows install as a second boot option than he changes the bank's infrastructure though :)

Or they could do their development on Windows or Linux in a VM. Or via VNC or the Windows equivalent.

At the last big Weblogic project I worked on, the (many) developers worked on Windows in VMs, on Windows boxes. One advantage being that we could use VM images pre-configured with Eclipse and whatnot set up just right.

That doesn't bode well. Isn't a large part of the appeal of a Mac that everything "just works"? How do you suppose sysadmins will now feel if banking infrastructure apps no longer "just work" and will now require an additional JVM to be installed from elsewhere and kept up to date through separate channels from Apple's?

I'd actually be curious to know of any banks that use Mac servers.

I expect they'll get along just fine, the same way companies rely on, say, VPN software where updates are distributed from the vendor's website rather than the OS vendor's website.

Even if Oracle would provide java, would anybody put so much trust into Oracle, to base the future of his/her software company onto this? Apple again has proven to be unreliable.

Yes, because as we all know, SUN has been a bright example of RELIABILITY in regards to Java et al...

The collapse of SUN, the Swing for the Desktop/JSF/Java FX fiascoes, the Oracle takeover and the recent JCP fights, totally inspire confidence in Java...

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