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At least in the case of Amazon, the denial is published under the name of the CISO, Steve Schmidt, who previously worked for the FBI for a decade.

https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/security/setting-the-record-str...

Not saying he's not lying but it definitely raises the stakes.

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Qualification is no hindrance to being or of the loop though, deliberately or not. It just makes it more embarrassing. Ignorance itself is still easily attainable, just "shoot the messenger" (this will make you seem tough and thorough to your higher ups) a few times when bad internal news escalate to your level and you will remain in blissful ignorance for the rest of your tenure.

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