Would you please not do flamewars on HN? Especially not about classic flamewar topics. I realize you didn't introduce it, but you did more than anyone else to wreck this thread.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Also, personal attacks like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18133374 will get you banned here, so please don't do that again.

Also, while I have you: if you post nationalistic slurs like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18121532 again ("shitty country"), we will ban you.