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Sure, but where? There are not that much email providers that will live forever and won't change your UX and have mobile apps, and... and...

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I’ve been using Zoho’s workplace for over a year now, no complaints. I use Thunderbird on Arch/Windows 10, Airmail on OSX, and Outlook on iOS.

I just got it for email hosting at $3/mo, but they provide a host of other tools aimed towards businesses.

Get a domain from Gandi. $15/year and includes email service. You can either use the email directly, or forward it somewhere else so you can keep using the same email address forever even if you change providers.

This is no different than just using Gmail. Eventually yet another service is gone and you have to adjust your workflow to another email app.

First, if you use your own mail clients rather than the vendor's interface, you don't need to change apps when you change email providers.

Second, even if you do need to change apps, you don't need to change addresses if you have your own domain.

I have no idea how you can compare Gmail to Thunderbird + your own domain + any decently sized email provider. It's absolutely trivial to move domains and email providers and using a client like Thunderbird means your experience remains consistent (and performant) over time.

Wow, didn't know that. Seems like a pretty good deal considering they are known as one of the better registrars. I will keep it in mind in case I have to look for alternative of either name.com or mailbox.org.

Mailbox.org as of now seems to be good except that they have started to either reply to emails quite late or sometimes simply ignore it[0] and the general lack of non-German language pages across their portal [1].

[0] Maybe because they have officially stopped anything but community/forum support for paying customers in €1 and €2.5 per month plans -https://mailbox.org/en/fees-and-conditions/

[1] https://help.mailbox.org/servicedesk/customer/user/login?des... Yes, one can guess or use Google translate but there's no translated page for this.

Well, if you don't want to switch providers, you can just use Thunderbird or your client of choice to access your inbox with a UI that you can trust won't change drastically.

fastmail.com - I used gmail since the good old days when I bought an invite on ebay. Yesterday, I switched to fastmail with my own domain. I'm not looking back.

> fastmail

You are aware they're an Australian company that will be forced to provide Oz government access to your account?

How is that relevant to UI performance or stability?

It's indirectly relevant, because apart from UX issues, especially here on HN, I believe that people should also be aware of security and privacy issues.

I wrote the comment especially in the light of people tripping across parent's recommendation. (There are lots of other threads here on HN indicating how people wish to migrate from gmail to something else, due to other Google/Alphabet Inc issues.)

"Where requests for access are issued legally, we comply." [0]

[0] https://fastmail.blog/2018/09/10/access-and-assistance-bill/

Nearly every service provider complies with legally issued requests. The ones that don't are either lying to you or fly by night operations that I wouldn't trust my business with.

Posteo works quite nice and they are very privacy-focussed, e.g. they release yearly transparency reports about requests from authorities.

https://posteo.de/en https://posteo.de/en/site/transparency_report

Mailspring is nice.

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