Comment by polote | Hacker News Reader

Comment by polote | Hacker News Reader

That's what I do currently, I'm a full time product manager in a normal company, and I'm also working as a CTO at a startup, we are 3. Two people are working full time, and I only work part time (about 30h per week). I do that, because I like doing multilple things at the same time. But I think it is a very difficult life.

I can do that because I have no social life and everything is optimized so that I can work all the time. But I don't think I would recommend that to everyone.

Benefits are :

* You are never bored

* If one of your job annoys you, you can always balance with the other one

* You have a lot of money, because you have two salaries, but you also don't have the time to buy anything

* And you dont waste time on useless things

Disadvantages:

* No social life

* No time with familly

* No leisures

* Very tired all the time

Honestly having a startup is usually not only something you can focus on only the night, you need to answer clients during the day, you need to monitor everything all the time. But if you love working, this is definitely something that you can enjoy

"Very tired all the time" - Where I come from (EU) this is the reason why it's not allowed to work two jobs (>40h) if the employer doesn't approve.

I'm from France, it is not allowed to work more than 44h per week for a period of 12 weeks. But honestly it is difficult to set the same bar for everyone

that is bellow the minimum in japan.

It’s not just a question of fatigue but also that for intellectually innovative work, it’s rare to get more out of 40+ hour weeks than 20-30.

At least this is the case with kids.

In the US, often employment agreements come with clauses that prevent working other jobs, and sometimes even preventing any out-of-work activities that negatively affect job performance.

When you ask your employer for permission for a second job (insofar as that is strictly legal), it's usually not a given that they ask for an estimate of the hours per week you will put in it. Instead they will ask you about the work to see if it might infringe on their business. It's a measure made to ensure that you don't get into their water, not one to protect you. That is why it's in your work contract and not part of the actual law.

I'm in the UK and have never heard of this 'rule'?

How long have you been doing this for? Do you think this can be maintained over a long period of time?

I have been doing that since may last year, but at beginning I was working much less, maybe max 55h per week.

I have been doing 70h+ per week for 4 weeks now, and I don't think I can do much more, you really feel that working ask a lot of energy.

But to be honest, 55-60h is possible to maintain a very long period of time, since the 26 of september last year, I worked 2682 hours, which is in average 7,34 hours per day, 51,4 hours per week, and I'm not dead (yet)

Yes. if you have a balanced, reasonably healthy life style it is absolutely doable. I am able to handle it in my early 30s. In my 20s with all the partying going on it was sometimes a problem to stay focused 12+ hours on a single day book-ended by good rest.

Does you diet suffer? Exercise? Do you get to shower? Sleep much?

I used to exercise every day, now only 3 times a week but sports is more often a good way to gain more energy.

I sleep a lot, average 8h30 per day, I really need to sleep a lot

Sleep is good for the soul and mind! I don't know how people can go for extended times without sleep and still be productive...

i found the keto diet to be very complimentary to the founder lifestyle. you end up intermittently fasting because of work which helps boost all of the benefits of keto.

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