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"The automaker is executed tests of some 90,000 drivers across the Chicago and Los Angeles areas from November 2017 through to January 2018 after those drivers gave permission for their data to be processed in this manner."

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How was the permission gathered? If it’s anything like what Toyota does then it’s a mailer that you must respond to to opt out.

Hyundai wouldn’t let me buy a car without agreeing to data collection.

So how does that work if you sell the car? They'd be tracking the new owner without permission.

It could be in the original agreement that if you sell the car, you can only sell to someone who also agrees to being spied on.

I mean, they could try putting the onus on the seller.

They could try, but ultimately Hyundai is spying without permission. Hyundai could sue the original owner for damages that arise from not being able to spy, but I'm guessing they'd go ahead and keep spying when they shouldn't. The original owner can't be held responsible for that.

Don't buy Hyundai.

That could have been for crash reconstruction black box. Which will be (is??) federally mandated now.

For a while VW (and the Germans) were the only holdouts.

Was the car so good that you couldn't find another one that didn't collect your data?

I'd like to see the IRB report, and the human studies application, and the informed consent form for this study.

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