Boston Dynamics Robots Run, Dance and Flip, But Are They a Business?
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I have a hard time seeing Spot Mini - or any legged robot - being useful for surveillance, for the simple reason that a thousand fixed wireless cameras will always be cheaper and will almost always give you better coverage than a single mobile robot. And I have a hard time seeing legged robots used well for moving goods, outside some niche settings such as search and rescue. Tracks are so much simpler, so much cheaper, and so much more robust. Not quite as agile, but really — how often do you need something moved over ground that a tracked vehicle or a four-wheeler can't negotiate? And that you're willing to pay $50,000 for?
Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of the tech BD develops. I just don't see a business plan for it.
But really, the 4-leggers are loss leaders to pay for the 2 leggers. Compatible with human physical interfaces like doors, trunks. stairs, etc.
Much easier to care for a robot than a dog.
If we could replace seeing-eye dogs with computer vision, good enough to help blind people cross the road, then why build it into a fake dog, not into fake sunglasses?
Boston Dynamics could easily make different models for people of varying abilities. A SpotMini for the blind, one for people with motor impairments, one for people with both.
They could make one for in-home use specifically, so maybe two SpotMini's could handoff once the person leaves the house. A set of SpotMinis.
It's a massive problem space.
There's also military usage -- if you can build an autonomous robot, it's not not much of a stretch to use those same design chops to augment a human.
Granted, the last one is fairly speculative, but their market is composed entirely of B2B/G and those customers are likely going to get their own highly customized versions of the robots Boston Dynamics produces for a princely sum.
One of the things that will be a game changer for SAR robots is high-bandwidth video/remote control literally anywhere on the planet with a satellite signal, at least 400-500 kbps data rates which will be possible with the Iridium NEXT satellite constellation (vs 2.4 kbps right now). Right now such data rates are only possible in areas with decent HSPA+/LTE coverage, which is not where a lot of SAR activity takes place.
Now imagine putting a setup with a high-res visual spectrum camera, a starlight camera, and a FLIR camera on the spot mini for heat sensing/night vision, and having multiple spot mini remote controlled by people walking through trails and searching an area.
this is really the only (broad) use case for legged robots, which is why the military is interested in it but BD struggles to find commercial success.
They have lots of tracked things and flying things too, obviously. All of which will be ever more automated, too.
I can see other niches, like carrying wounded hikers out of canyons where you can't fly, but agree that hardly sounds like a billion-dollar industry. Industrial uses I'm more dubious, I mean any warehouse already has a nice flat concrete floor... lots of uses for vision etc. but not so much for walking.
How do I get my Amazon or Uber Eats deliveries in 10 years time? Do I still go to the front door of my building, or does it arrive at my front door or even right into my loungeroom?
Or will we forever be stuck schlepping up and down from our apartments? ;)
I guess you could have a robot to look after the robot but that just complicates it even more
I've worked in robotics for a long time, and the thing I repeatedly see is under-attention to user experience. BD robots simply lack empathy. There are a huge number of robotics engineers who hear "lacks empathy" and snort dismissively at that criticism, and then go on to crater their robotics startup and wonder why.
The reality is that it is very difficult to come up with a robotics business model where the question: "Why does a robot deliver value better than some other solution?" has a good, clear, answer. But if you can manage to clear that hurdle, then you need to bring the appropriate design sensibilities to your product because your survival depends on it.
Sounds like they haven't (yet).
And that's where the money will come from. A dozen units here and there pays the bills when you're making super high margin stuff in barely higher than prototype volume.
I used to follow this stuff closely. Back in the 1990s I figured out how to do slip control for legged running across rough terrain, which requires something like "ABS for legs" to control slip. I have a patent on that, and that was used by the McGill legged robot in Canada. I was thinking high-end toys, like Aibo, or the humanoid Aibo that never came out as a product. But that market segment went nowhere. I could never see a business model for this. I met the designer of the Furby and found out what costs were like for that. No way were we going to get legged running down to toy pricing.
Today, you could probably build a good running robot toy today for the $2K Sony is charging for their new Aibo, if you could sell a few hundred thousand. The compute power required isn't that high. Big Dog runs on a Pentium-class machine running QNX, with the balance servo loop running at 100Hz and the hydraulic valve control loops running at 1KHz. Batteries and motors are way ahead of where they were in the 1990s. Boston Dynamics' new smaller robots finally got rid of the hydraulics. All this is much easier to do than it used to be.
When Google bought all those robotics companies, I thought big things were going to happen. Then we didn't hear anything for years. People in robotics thought they must have a big secret project underway. Turned out that Google had no clue what to do with all that robotics expertise. Maybe Softbank will come up with something.
Is there something wrong with being a Research lab that has $100B backed in funding?
I mean, wasn't Bell Labs a thing?
These robots aren't just innovations in bi/quad-pedal technology, they are making major advancements in gyroscopic monitoring, lidar, and many other areas.
Ding ding ding doesn't matter.
I would consider them elite in this field. Making robots to task based specs should pay well, and the annuity comes nearly free. Service, consulting, upgrades, changes...