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DO NOT CLICK THE LINK! Hour later I am still unable to restart my phone. It hangs on logo!! This may be a permanent fuck ;( unsure exact version but I have iOS 7 that hasnt been updated in about six months.

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If you use iCloud for Safari, you can close another device's Safari tab from your Mac. click the iCloud tabs icon on desktop Safari, then click the circle-x to close the offending tab.

This is a great suggestion for those stuck on this crash

Seems like on restart Safari wants to revisit previously opened pages and crashes again ad infinitum. Isn't there a way to cold-restart iOS devices or some such (like the magic "Zap NVRAM and repair permissions" procedure back in PowerMac times)?

"Seems like on restart Safari wants to revisit previously opened pages"

I've always found that behavior annoying. If I want to revisit the last page, I can find it in history.

I'm sure you're in the absolute minority. Most people want all apps, including the browser, to stay the way they were when they closed them, even after a reboot

Do you have data for this? I'm also in the absolute minority

Me too. I want a blank page when I open my browser. If I reboot a device, I want nothing but base system running when it restarts.

I sure as heck want my tabs back. But I'd settle for "restore tabs" as I have to do that a lot in chrome on my MacBook Pro. On my Android, the tabs are just there and I really appreciate it. I have over a dozen tabs open on my phone and two dozen on my laptop.

It’s very convenient, but isn’t that scenario better covered by hibernating the os? That covers all app and doesn’t require any app to have special behaviour coded in

If I never had to restart, sure. I have to restart my laptop weekly at least. Heck, it locked up twice last week opening Diablo 3 forcing a hard power cycle. My phone gets restarted less often but still gets into odd states where a reboot is needed.

tangential, but check out that your power supply is ok, that's the second most common source of random lockups during load (I assume drivers are up to date, that'd be the first)

But that’s why you need a “safe start mode” where you can start the app with a clean slate. Several Microsoft Office apps do this now. Given iOS’s repeated “crash loop” issues you’d think they’d have learnt by now.

That always bothers me. What if a page was (dumbly) in a state that makes a change I don't want?

I'm in that minority too, I guess. There's nothing more grating than to explicitly close all tabs, only to be asked whether you want to open them again. For me, tabs are like this useless plaque that slowly accumulates and needs to be blown away every two or three days.

Yep. I know someone who keeps dozens and dozens of tabs open on an iPhone. It's kind of like a bookmark library.

I explained that there is a bookmark feature just for this sort of thing, but when you're used to doing something one way, change can be slow.

try a force restart (home + power button for about 10 seconds)

What is home?

I think he meant hold down volume down + power button for 10 seconds.

Older iPhones with physical home button use that for restart.

Last year’s model.

Last year’s iPhones 8 use volume down + power for restart because home is not a button, but a sensor and it has to be powered to work.

there's no iOS 7 device without home button :)

It's the name of the round button at the bottom of the iPhones without Face ID.

No hang on 11.4.1. It came back fine.

Able to reboot fine on iOS 12 after the crash. Safari didn’t try to reopen closed windows as well.

DO NOT CLICK THE LINK!

Never imagined I'd read those words at HN. How times have changed. Be sensible people.

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