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I thought this, but it really only holds true if you work in a different neighborhood you live (likely tho it is)

I've spent some time in Marina del Ray and Long Beach, and they're walkable cities in their own right if you ignore the rest of LA (my preferred strategy)

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And isolated away from the LA sprawl Long Beach and Marina/Venice/SM are sizable cities unto themselves. It's a common misconception. Yes LA is not walkable but many cities inside of it are and are some of the most walkable places I've visited in the US.

Marina Del Rey and Venice are actually just neighborhoods of the city of LA. Santa Monica and Long Beach are their own cities.

MDR isn't a neighborhood in LA either, it's technically an unincorporated part of LA county.

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