I wonder if Google having a stronger presence and relationships in China, even if censored, would in fact be a better alternative than not having a presence in China. Another way the west can influence China and its direction is from the inside. It seems pretty clear that just avoiding the market due to morality isn’t really achieving anything. It just leaves a bigger void for local Chinese companies to fill. I’m in China now and I can tell you most people don’t really know or care about Google. Also, for the most part, your average person doesn’t even perceive the fact that their internet is restricted, and those that do, use VPNs anyways and have probably traveled abroad at some point. I’m beginning to think we should be injecting as much influence INTO China as possible if we want to have any ground later.