Which is a very sane default for most people
The only reason you'd want to use push to talk is either you have a lot of people in the channel, you have a loud background or you don't want people hearing stuff not designated for the discord voice (if you're streaming, have irl people in the same room - that kinda stuff)
I couldn't disagree more. Having an open mic setup for gaming is both insane and completely inconsiderate to everyone else in the channel/group.
It's hard not to personally judge people that join a group, whether that's a friend of a friend, someone looking to try out, public LFG lobbies, etc and you can immediately tell they have an open mic configuration. It's maddening.
Breathing, keyboard smashing, mouse clicking, background noise, eating, or exasperated whining every time you die/lose are all annoyances you push on the rest of the channel/group with an open mic configuration. At best it's an annoyance. At worst it's actively disrupting people's game play and team communication.
For the love of all that is decent with humanity, use push to talk.
I’d love Zoom, WebEx, GoToMeeting, et al., to implement push-to-talk, and give an option for mandatory use to conference call organizers.
We use Teams on our team, and my current PTT technique is to Ctrl+Shift+M to unmute and mute every time. Très annoying.
In theory but not in practice.
sounds to me like it's not a sane default
Whilst commanding someone to fix it should be the last resort most people with voice activation would rather the setup work for everyone in the server so they can keep using it.
On my setup for example I had a desk mic which sat on my wooden desk. People had to point out to me that there were sudden sharp noises coming from my mic. Eventually it was isolated to my mouse hitting the desk and vibrating up the base into the mic. I placed the mic on a bit of foam and everyone was happy. These types of activations are not picked up during self testing easily.
Not sure if discord has anything as good, that might be the difference.
This falls apart for people that speak very quietly though. If there is no volume difference between your chewing sounds and your speaking sounds you __need__ push to to talk.
Also voice activation is a boon for competitive games where you can't spare a hotkey and finger during play.
I don't think they hit anyone, but they did unplug the foot pedals from their PC the moment they got home.
Worked great!
I've been playing competitive games for 15 years. I think you're overstating how difficult it is to press one other button. It's also contradictory to the common practice of clans/scrim groups having a PTT policy.
I think people saying "Well X does it better." are missing the point. It's always been a problem. Ventrilo, Mumble, Teamspeak, etc. If you've never considered it a problem there is a good possibility a lot of people around you were just tolerating it.
Why? That's just a bald assertion with a butt load of evidence to the contrary.
>and what's "competitive" level for you
I'm pretty serious about competitive play. Started with CS 1.6, moved to SC2, then RB6:Siege, then GO, and now OW. I've consistently ranked in the top tier in each of those games. I moved my gym time to my lunch break and run when I wake up so I can play games in the evening and scrim when I'm on teams. It's an addiction.
>PTT is shooting yourself into the foot just because you can't find not-infantile teamplayers
I like how instead of addressing the technological merits of voice activation you just call people "infantile" to avoid actually discussing the subject.
This is super game/group dependent. For example if I'm playing with a 5 stack I'll have open mic on volume cutoff. We're casually chatting pre-game and ptt is not useful there, then dota starts and I cannot manage the additional load of regularly using ptt key whilst playing so I'll end up talking way less and it's bad
On the other hand in a 250 man fleet in Eve Online - you'd best believe everyone with open mic is getting banned from the server.
But that's just me :)
> "Oh, yes. Except they do it with meat."
> "I thought you just told me they used radio."
> "They do, but what do you think is on the radio? Meat sounds. You know how when you slap or flap meat it makes a noise? They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat."
Tangent: It's ironic that the dialogue between the two aliens is spoken by humans. After all, the actors are rendering the dialog with meat sounds. I think it would have been better to use a speech synthesizer that's not based on actual recordings of meat sounds -- like eSpeak, DECtalk, or ETI-Eloquence. DECtalk, at least, is flexible enough to speak with whatever intonation you want, so the dialogue wouldn't necessarily come out sounding flat.
I can't tell you how many times I've ran into users who just cannot get their sensitivity right. So in turn, you end up with a ton of people coughing, sneezing, talking to others, fans, and insert your other favorite background noise. Most users just don't care to set it up right, and it's impossible to get them to adjust it (unless you have some type of Discord Mod / Admin privs on the server at the time to force them to fix it). Otherwise, you have a bunch of users who have to put up with Joe-Schmoe chewing away on his mic.
It's why the Discord servers I'm in 100% completely enforce PTT, zero voice activation allowed.
It might be better with people using Xbox controllers.
Not necessarily, I have had to disable my mic when playing certain games, apparently I'm violent enough with the analog sticks that hitting the end of travel will activate discord.
And we complain a lot when someone on the server has an improper voice activation threshold, so everyone quickly fixes theirs.
The best being when they use speakers so you get some echo. That's usually when they get muted because fuck their lazy-ass.
you have a lot of people in the channel
you have a loud background
you don't want people hearing stuff not designated for the
What were you saying about open mics?