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Ken: Mr. Wimmer, can you imagine headlines "Vladimir Putin has listened to cellphone of the German chancellor for ten years"?
Wimmer: That would lead to revolutionary situation in Germany.
Ken: And if they would say "China runs a flat spy operation in Germany"?
Wimmer: They are accused of that anyway.
Ken: But why nothing happened after NSA affair? At first they said "we don't do such thing", then "we do it a will do it further".
Wimmer: That's a question of national dignity.
Ken: Do we still have it?
Wimmer: You already answered that.
Ken: Did I?
Wimmer: By asking the question. If it happened anywhere else, we would definitely cut the contact. But the reality is, as you just described. Business as usual.
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Based on information from interviews like this, I think that nothing has happened, and no action was taken. US (correctly) assessed, that Germany can do nothing, and did what they wanted/needed/whatever. Germany can't do anything from it's position of weakness.
If Germany wants to change that, the steps necessary do not take into account the past, current or future US administration. Only German interests.
Both he and Willy Wimmer toe the Kremlin line
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KenFM
https://www.tagesspiegel.de/medien/juergen-elsaesser-und-sei...
See how easy is to label someone? Address the points, do not ad-hominem the messenger.
Wimmer spent decades in CDU, with results to show. He "toes the Kremlin line" because he disagreed with the wars in Yugoslavia, Iraq and Afghanistan, and we cannot have that.
My translation from the introduction of “Rechte Hetze im Netz - eine unterschätzte Gefahr” by Patrick Gensing: “This heated atmosphere is fired by pro-Russian strategists who propagate a close alliance with Putins Russia. The result is a cross-front that wants to impose an authoritarian-nationalist system.”
I assume Jebsen and Wimmer try to suggest that Germany is not a sovereign state. Points like that are often made in their circles and link to the “Reichsbürgerbewegung”.